PC Gaming nerd thread!
It's a rehash. And there is no point to the article other than Nvidia couldn't provide chips at the price Sony wanted.
It's no big deal, but bad business move on their part to try to make Sony look bad. It'll be interesting to see if Sony offers them a shot next go round.
It's no big deal, but bad business move on their part to try to make Sony look bad. It'll be interesting to see if Sony offers them a shot next go round.
Outbid and contracting to the lowest bidder is two entirely different things. Sorry nvidia has too much quality for Sony to afford, either way the only loss here is yours. Yeah it's 100 bucks cheaper but its also that much more inferior.
Considering the comments they made, which sound very butthurt, I'm more inclined to believe they were out bid.
No loss for me. I'll enjoy my PS4 gaming just the same. And saving some extra $$$ on top? Sign me up!

Um didn't Sony use their own blu ray player in their system since blu ray is Sony. That doesn't make sense too me.
Nvidia is hardly hurting. They have managed to create chip technology that fits hand-in-glove with Intel's processors and are making a killing. Their stuff is quality and it's easy to work with.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with SLI; nothing's perfect and when you have so many different technologies that are used in graphics programming these days, there are going to be products that work better with certain tech than others. Still, a little research, tweaking, etc., and you can get any game to look its best and run like water with Nvidia's mid- and high-end cards in SLI. You can create individual profiles for the various GPU's for each individual game. Getting it maxed out graphically is simply a matter of opening the control panel, selecting the profile for the game you wish to play, and launching the game.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with SLI; nothing's perfect and when you have so many different technologies that are used in graphics programming these days, there are going to be products that work better with certain tech than others. Still, a little research, tweaking, etc., and you can get any game to look its best and run like water with Nvidia's mid- and high-end cards in SLI. You can create individual profiles for the various GPU's for each individual game. Getting it maxed out graphically is simply a matter of opening the control panel, selecting the profile for the game you wish to play, and launching the game.
Last edited by kcoTiger; Apr 1, 2013 at 02:04 PM.
Nvidia is hardly hurting. They have managed to create chip technology that fits hand-in-glove with Intel's processors and are making a killing. Their stuff is quality and it's easy to work with.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with SLI; nothing's perfect and when you have so many different technologies that are used in graphics programming these days, there are going to be products that work better with certain tech than others. Still, a little research, tweaking, etc., and you can get any game to look its best and run like water with Nvidia's mid- and high-end cards in SLI. You can create individual profiles for the various GPU's for each individual game. Getting it maxed out graphically is simply a matter of opening the control panel, selecting the profile for the game you wish to play, and launching the game.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with SLI; nothing's perfect and when you have so many different technologies that are used in graphics programming these days, there are going to be products that work better with certain tech than others. Still, a little research, tweaking, etc., and you can get any game to look its best and run like water with Nvidia's mid- and high-end cards in SLI. You can create individual profiles for the various GPU's for each individual game. Getting it maxed out graphically is simply a matter of opening the control panel, selecting the profile for the game you wish to play, and launching the game.
True, you're better off just spending a little more on one card than buying two (or three) of the same older card and running them in SLI. And yes, SLI does require more attention, as a single card requires little adjustment once the settings are where you want them.
What on earth makes you think AMD is going out of business?
They've got multiple new architectures coming out this year. Unlike Nvidia, AMD sells a wide variety of products. Everything from tablet APUs to desktop PCs, to game consoles have AMD products in them. Even Nvidia's video cards use AMD's GDDR RAM on them.
Nvidia on the other hand is a one trick pony. They live of die by their PC GPUs. They've got nothing else worth mentioning as far as revenue generators go. They've taken a pretty serious hit on their stocks this year in no small part because of their ever increasing price tag. I remember another 3D video card that once dominated the PC gaming GPU market. One that everyone was sure was going to thrive. Do you remember 3DFX and what happened to them?
Besides, with the Wii U, PS4, and next-generation Xbox consoles all using AMD GPUs, would you like to guess which GPU architecture most multiplatform games are going to be tailored for?
Last edited by Moustang; Apr 1, 2013 at 02:53 PM.
What on earth makes you think AMD is going out of business?
They've got multiple new architectures coming out this year. Unlike Nvidia, AMD sells a wide variety of products. Everything from tablet APUs to desktop PCs, to game consoles have AMD products in them. Even Nvidia's video cards use AMD's GDDR RAM on them.
Nvidia on the other hand is a one trick pony. They live of die by their PC GPUs. They've got nothing else worth mentioning as far as revenue generators go. They've taken a pretty serious hit on their stocks this year in no small part because of their ever increasing price tag.
I remember another 3D video card that once dominated the PC gaming GPU market. One that everyone was sure was going to thrive. Do you remember 3DFX and what happened to them?

Little excerpt:
AMD will be hoping that its PS4 business pays off, having recently fallen on hard times. Earlier this week it sold its Austin-based HQ for $164 million to raise cash, while a leading analyst called it "un-investable" following an operating loss of $131 million in its quarterly earnings report.
In Nvidia's latest earnings call, the company posted a profit of $174 million.
Last edited by steven46746; Apr 1, 2013 at 02:59 PM.
Is that like googling "nvidia what the heck happened"? 
Yes, over the past 2 years AMD has spent a boatload on R&D. That's where all of these new APUs have come from. That's been a lot of money going out with not much coming back in because these products haven't hit retail production yet.
But AMD can guarantee that they'll ship over 30 million console APUs alone before the end of this year. That's more than Nvidia is likely to ship with all of their products combined. The PC video game GPU market just isn't that large, and demand for $500+ PC cards isn't very high. AMD has spent a ton of money to diversify their business model while Nivida's business model has become more reliant than ever on a single product range.
Forgotten points from your excerpt:
It fails to mention AMD is also supplying the APU in the next-gen Xbox and supplies the GPU in the Wii U.
AMD owns the console market. All 3 consoles are using AMD products.
Then it fails to mention Temash, which is designed for Android and Windows based tablets and notebooks. Kabini, which is for laptops, and Kaveri which is a new generation of APUs for desktops. These low-cost high performance CPU/GPU in a single chip solutions are just what the doctor ordered for many hardware manufacturers looking to save money on production.

Yes, over the past 2 years AMD has spent a boatload on R&D. That's where all of these new APUs have come from. That's been a lot of money going out with not much coming back in because these products haven't hit retail production yet.
But AMD can guarantee that they'll ship over 30 million console APUs alone before the end of this year. That's more than Nvidia is likely to ship with all of their products combined. The PC video game GPU market just isn't that large, and demand for $500+ PC cards isn't very high. AMD has spent a ton of money to diversify their business model while Nivida's business model has become more reliant than ever on a single product range.
Forgotten points from your excerpt:
It fails to mention AMD is also supplying the APU in the next-gen Xbox and supplies the GPU in the Wii U.
AMD owns the console market. All 3 consoles are using AMD products.
Then it fails to mention Temash, which is designed for Android and Windows based tablets and notebooks. Kabini, which is for laptops, and Kaveri which is a new generation of APUs for desktops. These low-cost high performance CPU/GPU in a single chip solutions are just what the doctor ordered for many hardware manufacturers looking to save money on production.
Last edited by Moustang; Apr 1, 2013 at 03:11 PM.
Is that like googling "nvidia what the heck happened"?

Yes, over the past 2 years AMD has spent a boatload on R&D. That's where all of these new APUs have come from. That's been a lot of money going out with not much coming back in because these products haven't hit retail production yet.
But AMD can guarantee that they'll ship over 30 million console APUs alone before the end of this year. That's more than Nvidia is likely to ship with all of their products combined. The PC video game GPU market just isn't that large, and demand for $500+ PC cards isn't very high. AMD has spent a ton of money to diversify their business model while Nivida's business model has become more reliant than ever on a single product range.
Next you'll tell me amd will eventually surpass intel because they focus mainly on cpu's.
Last edited by steven46746; Apr 1, 2013 at 03:17 PM.




I still like Nvidia though.