News Alert!
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News Alert!
Hey guys! Just wanted to make sure everyone is aware that all these ships are heading towards Iran!
But first, you should know that American Troops have been captured by Russians in the war between Georgia and Russia!
Ok so here is a list of all the ships! WWIII has begun! Make sure you buy a small radio with extra batteries to stay informed if the lights go out. Also buy a flashlight! Good luck!!
Carrier Strike Group Nine
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines
Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer
Carrier Strike Group Two
USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer
USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier
with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall (LSD50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer
USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
Carrier Strike Group Seven
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship
But first, you should know that American Troops have been captured by Russians in the war between Georgia and Russia!
Ok so here is a list of all the ships! WWIII has begun! Make sure you buy a small radio with extra batteries to stay informed if the lights go out. Also buy a flashlight! Good luck!!
Carrier Strike Group Nine
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines
Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer
Carrier Strike Group Two
USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer
USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier
with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall (LSD50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer
USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
Carrier Strike Group Seven
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship
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No... American Troops have not been captured. They were mercenaries that were American Citizens who did happen to be in the military, but they were not under orders from our gov't to do what they did.
http://translate.google.com/translat...10/195089.html
Those soldiers were originally there to help train the Georgians.
Although this is obviously a less than ideal situation (understatement) there is no need to jump to conclusions MSP, the third world war is not yet upon us.
http://translate.google.com/translat...10/195089.html
Those soldiers were originally there to help train the Georgians.
Although this is obviously a less than ideal situation (understatement) there is no need to jump to conclusions MSP, the third world war is not yet upon us.
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No... American Troops have not been captured. They were mercenaries that were American Citizens who did happen to be in the military, but they were not under orders from our gov't to do what they did.
http://translate.google.com/translat...10/195089.html
Those soldiers were originally there to help train the Georgians.
Although this is obviously a less than ideal situation (understatement) there is no need to jump to conclusions MSP, the third world war is not yet upon us.
http://translate.google.com/translat...10/195089.html
Those soldiers were originally there to help train the Georgians.
Although this is obviously a less than ideal situation (understatement) there is no need to jump to conclusions MSP, the third world war is not yet upon us.
I know its much better to pretend that things are ok.. Just wanted to make sure guys are at a bare minimum aware that we are indeed in distress. All is not well..
Working on the Mustang is a good way to keep yourself busy, and your mind off of the insanity..
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The world will come to an end someday, and that day is when the internet stops working. Until then all is well.....wait a minute, my bandwidth just dropped. What! They are throttling torrent speeds. Crap!!!!! The end is near. Screw the batteries, radios and flashlights. I'm filling up the car with gas and going for a final cruise.
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The world will come to an end someday, and that day is when the internet stops working. Until then all is well.....wait a minute, my bandwidth just dropped. What! They are throttling torrent speeds. Crap!!!!! The end is near. Screw the batteries, radios and flashlights. I'm filling up the car with gas and going for a final cruise.
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From: Berkeley/Redwood City, CA
I wasn't trying to downplay the fact that theres some tough stuff going on in that area, just wanted to make sure you knew that it wasn't as bad as it seemed.
It will be interesting to see how this little scuffle in that region of the world will play out..
It will be interesting to see how this little scuffle in that region of the world will play out..
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From: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
More evidence to support this thread...
The below is from UPI (subscription only). Note the bolded text >>
WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 (UPI) -- For several years after the implosion of the Soviet empire and the end of the Cold War, the United States assured Boris Yeltsin and his successor, Vladimir Putin, that Washington was not interested in expanding NATO's writ to include former Soviet republics. That assurance was ignored when the three Baltic states were voted in to the NATO club.
The United States then pushed hard to add Georgia to the NATO roster, but Europe's NATO members pushed back. At last April's NATO summit in Bucharest, the 26-country alliance split as Russia lodged a strong protest that said the promise to extend membership to independent republics that were once part of the Soviet Union was "a huge strategic mistake."
If tiny Georgia with 4.5 million people were part of the NATO alliance today, the United States, Canada and NATO's European members technically would be at war with Russia. Article 5 of the NATO treaty makes an attack against one member an attack against all. And following Russia's attack against Georgia last week, pro-American, Harvard-trained Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said Moscow would not have dared lunge into South Ossetia, and bomb Georgian targets, if his country had been a member of NATO.
This is debatable. NATO could not have responded anyway. The United States flew back the 2,000 Georgian troops assigned to Iraq. The White House is already committed to a two-war drain in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most of the NATO troops in Afghanistan -- with the exception of Canadian, British, Dutch and American -- are not authorized to fight, hamstrung as they are by caveats voted by their national parliaments.
With only 19,500 U.S.-trained regular soldiers, seven obsolete aircraft and 100 aging tanks, there wasn't much Georgia could do to stem the Russian tide.
Moscow's strategic planners took advantage of NATO's predicament to deal a major setback to American interests on their Georgian border. Twin thrusts of about 100 tanks each quickly pushed Georgian troops out of the disputed South Ossetia province, where more than half the population of 70,000 carry Russian passports. The Russians bombed the Black Sea port of Poti (a staging post for oil and other energy supplies), the military part of the capital's Tbilisi international airport, the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline (which moves oil from the Caspian Sea to Turkey), Gori (Stalin's birthplace) and opened a new front by moving into another disputed province, Abkhazia, long a victim of ethnic clashes. Saakashvili declared a state of war and called for a cease-fire. In its best Cold War tradition, as when the Soviet Union invaded Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968 and Afghanistan in 1979, Moscow said its citizens in South Ossetia were threatened and called for assistance.
Saakashvili also said Russia's military had opened yet another front by dispatching units of its Black Sea Fleet, still based in Ukraine, to Abkhazia. Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Ossetia and Abkhazia's disputed Kodori Gorge were under way, the president added. Claims and counter-claims were hard to verify. Moscow claimed it had "completely liberated" Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia. And Georgia counter-claimed with 12 Russian aircraft shot down (two of them confirmed).
With almost all of the Western world's decisionmakers, along with most of their people, on vacation at the beginning of the second week of August, Moscow clearly calculated to wrap things up in Georgia before street protests could get under way in the West. Prime Minister Putin was still at the Olympic Games in Beijing when Russian tanks lunged into Georgia. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was in charge in Moscow where he pledged to "force the Georgian side to peace."
Putin and his military strategists have been nursing a major grudge against the Bush administration for the way it announced, without any prior consultation with Moscow, the installation of anti-ballistic defenses coupled with over-the-horizon radar in Poland and the Czech Republic, both designed to protect Europe and the United States from Iran's nuclear-tipped intercontinental missiles. The U.S. strategic projection estimates Iran with this kind of capability by 2011. Moscow was also miffed by the way Western capitals ignored Russia's objections to recognizing Kosovo's independence from Serbia.
The Bush administration cannot afford to alienate the Medvedev-Putin team any further. It needs Russia's help to rein in Iran's nuclear ambitions. But this may no longer be forthcoming. In which case, some of the Gulf states are already speculating this may be the moment President Bush selects to order air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities. The Kuwait Times reported two additional U.S. carrier groups were heading for the region and that Kuwait had begun finalizing its "emergency war plan." Thus, the cynics say Russia's blitz against Georgia and America's and/or Israel's blitz against Iran would cancel each other's propaganda advantage.
For the average Georgian, the West had left them in the lurch, without so much as probation for NATO membership, called a "Membership Action Plan." At the very least, Moscow will re-annex the two contested Georgian provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, each with its own language.
NATO credibility has far more at stake in Afghanistan, where the Taliban are making steady inroads. NATO's European fighters (the United Kingdom and Holland) and Canada's are committed to keep up combat operations for two more years. But Afghanistan requires an open-ended commitment of at least five to 10 years. If Barack Obama is elected president, he has pledged to move troops from Iraq to Afghanistan.
In Pakistan, a new civilian government has yet to gain traction in the tribal areas that straddle the Afghan border where the Taliban and al-Qaida are still operating with impunity. Pakistan's Frontier Corps pulled out of the Bajaur tribal agency with heavy casualties after a three-day siege. The area was littered with bodies and burned vehicles. The FC, which had fighter bombers and Cobra helicopter gunship support, abandoned bodies, trucks and large quantities of ammo.
Taliban guerrillas were also back in force in Swat, a scenic tourist attraction in Pakistan proper, where they wore head-to-toe burqas to befriend a police post. After tying the hands of eight policemen, they began shooting, and killed them all. Similar incidents are now daily fare.
The United States then pushed hard to add Georgia to the NATO roster, but Europe's NATO members pushed back. At last April's NATO summit in Bucharest, the 26-country alliance split as Russia lodged a strong protest that said the promise to extend membership to independent republics that were once part of the Soviet Union was "a huge strategic mistake."
If tiny Georgia with 4.5 million people were part of the NATO alliance today, the United States, Canada and NATO's European members technically would be at war with Russia. Article 5 of the NATO treaty makes an attack against one member an attack against all. And following Russia's attack against Georgia last week, pro-American, Harvard-trained Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said Moscow would not have dared lunge into South Ossetia, and bomb Georgian targets, if his country had been a member of NATO.
This is debatable. NATO could not have responded anyway. The United States flew back the 2,000 Georgian troops assigned to Iraq. The White House is already committed to a two-war drain in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most of the NATO troops in Afghanistan -- with the exception of Canadian, British, Dutch and American -- are not authorized to fight, hamstrung as they are by caveats voted by their national parliaments.
With only 19,500 U.S.-trained regular soldiers, seven obsolete aircraft and 100 aging tanks, there wasn't much Georgia could do to stem the Russian tide.
Moscow's strategic planners took advantage of NATO's predicament to deal a major setback to American interests on their Georgian border. Twin thrusts of about 100 tanks each quickly pushed Georgian troops out of the disputed South Ossetia province, where more than half the population of 70,000 carry Russian passports. The Russians bombed the Black Sea port of Poti (a staging post for oil and other energy supplies), the military part of the capital's Tbilisi international airport, the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline (which moves oil from the Caspian Sea to Turkey), Gori (Stalin's birthplace) and opened a new front by moving into another disputed province, Abkhazia, long a victim of ethnic clashes. Saakashvili declared a state of war and called for a cease-fire. In its best Cold War tradition, as when the Soviet Union invaded Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968 and Afghanistan in 1979, Moscow said its citizens in South Ossetia were threatened and called for assistance.
Saakashvili also said Russia's military had opened yet another front by dispatching units of its Black Sea Fleet, still based in Ukraine, to Abkhazia. Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Ossetia and Abkhazia's disputed Kodori Gorge were under way, the president added. Claims and counter-claims were hard to verify. Moscow claimed it had "completely liberated" Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia. And Georgia counter-claimed with 12 Russian aircraft shot down (two of them confirmed).
With almost all of the Western world's decisionmakers, along with most of their people, on vacation at the beginning of the second week of August, Moscow clearly calculated to wrap things up in Georgia before street protests could get under way in the West. Prime Minister Putin was still at the Olympic Games in Beijing when Russian tanks lunged into Georgia. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was in charge in Moscow where he pledged to "force the Georgian side to peace."
Putin and his military strategists have been nursing a major grudge against the Bush administration for the way it announced, without any prior consultation with Moscow, the installation of anti-ballistic defenses coupled with over-the-horizon radar in Poland and the Czech Republic, both designed to protect Europe and the United States from Iran's nuclear-tipped intercontinental missiles. The U.S. strategic projection estimates Iran with this kind of capability by 2011. Moscow was also miffed by the way Western capitals ignored Russia's objections to recognizing Kosovo's independence from Serbia.
The Bush administration cannot afford to alienate the Medvedev-Putin team any further. It needs Russia's help to rein in Iran's nuclear ambitions. But this may no longer be forthcoming. In which case, some of the Gulf states are already speculating this may be the moment President Bush selects to order air strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities. The Kuwait Times reported two additional U.S. carrier groups were heading for the region and that Kuwait had begun finalizing its "emergency war plan." Thus, the cynics say Russia's blitz against Georgia and America's and/or Israel's blitz against Iran would cancel each other's propaganda advantage.
For the average Georgian, the West had left them in the lurch, without so much as probation for NATO membership, called a "Membership Action Plan." At the very least, Moscow will re-annex the two contested Georgian provinces of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, each with its own language.
NATO credibility has far more at stake in Afghanistan, where the Taliban are making steady inroads. NATO's European fighters (the United Kingdom and Holland) and Canada's are committed to keep up combat operations for two more years. But Afghanistan requires an open-ended commitment of at least five to 10 years. If Barack Obama is elected president, he has pledged to move troops from Iraq to Afghanistan.
In Pakistan, a new civilian government has yet to gain traction in the tribal areas that straddle the Afghan border where the Taliban and al-Qaida are still operating with impunity. Pakistan's Frontier Corps pulled out of the Bajaur tribal agency with heavy casualties after a three-day siege. The area was littered with bodies and burned vehicles. The FC, which had fighter bombers and Cobra helicopter gunship support, abandoned bodies, trucks and large quantities of ammo.
Taliban guerrillas were also back in force in Swat, a scenic tourist attraction in Pakistan proper, where they wore head-to-toe burqas to befriend a police post. After tying the hands of eight policemen, they began shooting, and killed them all. Similar incidents are now daily fare.
Last edited by Hollywood_North GT; Aug 11, 2008 at 11:42 PM.
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Yeah, and here's yet more evidence that things are afoot.
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Still more reasons to be concerned...
Operation Brimstone ended only one week ago. This was the joint US/UK/French naval war games in the Atlantic Ocean preparing for a naval blockade of Iran and the likely resulting war in the Persian Gulf area. The massive war games included a US Navy supercarrier battle group, an US Navy expeditionary carrier battle group, a Royal Navy carrier battle group, a French nuclear hunter-killer submarine plus a large number of US Navy cruisers, destroyers and frigates playing the "enemy force".
The lead American ship in these war games, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN71) and its Carrier Strike Group Two (CCSG-2) are now headed towards Iran along with the USS Ronald Reagon (CVN76) and its Carrier Strike Group Seven (CCSG-7) coming from Japan.
They are joining two existing USN battle groups in the Gulf area: the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) with its Carrier Strike Group Nine (CCSG-9); and the USS Peleliu (LHA-5) with its expeditionary strike group.
Likely also under way towards the Persian Gulf is the USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7) and its expeditionary strike group, the UK Royal Navy HMS Ark Royal (R07) carrier battle group, assorted French naval assets including the nuclear hunter-killer submarine Amethyste and French Naval Rafale fighter jets on-board the USS Theodore Roosevelt. These ships took part in the just completed Operation Brimstone.
The build up of naval forces in the Gulf will be one of the largest multi-national naval armadas since the First and Second Gulf Wars. The intent is to create a US/EU naval blockade (which is an Act of War under international law) around Iran (with supporting air and land elements) to prevent the shipment of benzene and certain other refined oil products headed to Iranian ports. Iran has limited domestic oil refining capacity and imports 40% of its benzene. Cutting off benzene and other key products would cripple the Iranian economy.
The US Naval forces being assembled include the following:
Carrier Strike Group Nine
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines
Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer
Carrier Strike Group Two
USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer
USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier
with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall (LSD50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer
USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
Carrier Strike Group Seven
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship
Also likely to join the battle armada:
UK Royal Navy HMS Ark Royal Carrier Strike Group with assorted guided missile destroyers and frigates, nuclear hunter-killer submarines and support ships
French Navy nuclear powered hunter-killer submarines (likely the Amethyste and perhaps others), plus French Naval Rafale fighter jets operating off of the USS Theodore Roosevelt as the French Carrier Charles de Gaulle is in dry dock, and assorted surface warships
Various other US Navy warships and submarines and support ships. The following USN ships took part (as the "enemy" forces) in Operation Brimstone and several may join in:
USS San Jacinto (CG56) guided missile cruiser
USS Anzio (CG68) guided missile cruiser
USS Normandy (CG60) guided missile cruiser
USS Carney (DDG64) guided missile destroyer
USS Oscar Austin (DDG79) guided missile destroyer
USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG81) guided missile destroyer
USS Carr (FFG52) guided missile frigate
The USS Iwo Jima and USS Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Groups have USMC Harrier jump jets and an assortment of assault and attack helicopters. The Expeditionary Strike Groups have powerful USMC Expeditionary Units with amphibious armor and ground forces trained for operating in shallow waters and in seizures of land assets, such as Qeshm Island (a 50 mile long island off of Bandar Abbas in the Gulf of Hormuz and headquarters of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps).
The large and very advanced nature of the US Naval warships is not only directed at Iran. There is a great fear that Russia and China may oppose the naval and air/land blockade of Iran. If Russian and perhaps Chinese naval warships escort commercial tankers to Iran in violation of the blockade it could be the most dangerous at-sea confrontation since the Cuban Missile Crisis. The US and allied Navies, by front loading a Naval blockade force with very powerful guided missile warships and strike carriers is attempting to have a force so powerful that Russia and China will not be tempted to challenge it.
The Russian Navy this spring sent a major battle fleet into the Mediterranean headed by the modern aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov and the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, the Guided Missile Heavy Cruiser Moskva. This powerful fleet has at least 11 surface ships and unknown numbers of subs and can use the Russian naval facility at Syria's Tartous port for resupply. The Admiral Kuznetsov carries approximately 47 warplanes and 10 helicopters. The warplanes are mostly the powerful Su-33, a naval version (with mid-air refueling capability) of the Su-27 family. While the Su-33 is a very powerful warplane it lacks the power of the stealth USAF F-22. However, the Russians insist that they have developed a plasma based system that allows them to stealth any aircraft and a recent incident where Russian fighters were able to appear unannounced over a US Navy carrier battle group tends to confirm their claims. The Su-33 can be armed with the 3M82 Moskit sea-skimming missile (NATO code name SS-N-22 Sunburn) and the even more powerful P-800 Oniks (also named Yakhonts; NATO code name SS-N-26 Onyx). Both missiles are designed to kill US Navy supercarriers by getting past the cruiser/destroyer screen and the USN point-defense Phalanx system by using high supersonic speeds and violent end maneuvers. Russian subs currently use the underwater rocket VA-111 Shkval (Squall), which is fired from standard 533mm torpedo tubes and reaches a speed of 360kph (230mph) underwater. There is no effective countermeasures to this system and no western counterpart.
A strategic diversion has been created for Russia. The Republic of Georgia, with US backing, is actively preparing for war on South Ossetia. The South Ossetia capital has been shelled and a large Georgian tank force has been heading towards the border. Russia has stated that it will not sit by and allow the Georgians to attack South Ossetia. The Russians are master chess players.
UPDATE 8 August 2008 ~ War has broken out between Georgia and South Ossetia. At least 10 Russian troops have been killed and 30 wounded and 2 Russian fighter jets downed. American Marines, a thousand of them, have recently been in Georgia training the Georgian military forces. Several European nations stopped Bush and others from allowing Georgia into NATO. Russia is moving a large military force with armor towards the area. This could get bad, and remember it is just a strategic diversion....but one that could have horrific effects. Link to story "Russia sends forces into Georgia rebel conflict".
FURTHER UPDATE ~ Russian military forces in active combat; now total of four Russian fighter jets reported downed.
ADDITIONAL UPDATE ~ Georgia calls for US help; Russian Air Force bombs Georgian air bases. DEBKA, the Israeli strategy and military site, states that Israeli military officers are advising the Georgian armed forces in combat operations and that 1,000 Israelis are in-combat on the side of Georgia at this time.
Kuwait has activated its "Emergency War Plan" as it and other Gulf nations prepare for the likelihood of a major regional war in the Middle East involving weapons of mass destruction.
The lead American ship in these war games, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN71) and its Carrier Strike Group Two (CCSG-2) are now headed towards Iran along with the USS Ronald Reagon (CVN76) and its Carrier Strike Group Seven (CCSG-7) coming from Japan.
They are joining two existing USN battle groups in the Gulf area: the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) with its Carrier Strike Group Nine (CCSG-9); and the USS Peleliu (LHA-5) with its expeditionary strike group.
Likely also under way towards the Persian Gulf is the USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7) and its expeditionary strike group, the UK Royal Navy HMS Ark Royal (R07) carrier battle group, assorted French naval assets including the nuclear hunter-killer submarine Amethyste and French Naval Rafale fighter jets on-board the USS Theodore Roosevelt. These ships took part in the just completed Operation Brimstone.
The build up of naval forces in the Gulf will be one of the largest multi-national naval armadas since the First and Second Gulf Wars. The intent is to create a US/EU naval blockade (which is an Act of War under international law) around Iran (with supporting air and land elements) to prevent the shipment of benzene and certain other refined oil products headed to Iranian ports. Iran has limited domestic oil refining capacity and imports 40% of its benzene. Cutting off benzene and other key products would cripple the Iranian economy.
The US Naval forces being assembled include the following:
Carrier Strike Group Nine
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN72) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Two
Destroyer Squadron Nine:
USS Mobile Bay (CG53) guided missile cruiser
USS Russell (DDG59) guided missile destroyer
USS Momsen (DDG92) guided missile destroyer
USS Shoup (DDG86) guided missile destroyer
USS Ford (FFG54) guided missile frigate
USS Ingraham (FFG61) guided missile frigate
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG60) guided missile frigate
USS Curts (FFG38) guided missile frigate
Plus one or more nuclear hunter-killer submarines
Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Peleliu (LHA-5) a Tarawa-class amphibious assault carrier
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD52) assult ship
USS Dubuque (LPD8) assult ship/landing dock
USS Cape St. George (CG71) guided missile cruiser
USS Halsey (DDG97) guided missile destroyer
USS Benfold (DDG65) guided missile destroyer
Carrier Strike Group Two
USS Theodore Roosevelt (DVN71) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing Eight
Destroyer Squadron 22
USS Monterey (CG61) guided missile cruiser
USS Mason (DDG87) guided missile destroyer
USS Nitze (DDG94) guided missile destroyer
USS Sullivans (DDG68) guided missile destroyer
USS Springfield (SSN761) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
IWO ESG ~ Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group
USS Iwo Jima (LHD7) amphibious assault carrier
with its Amphibious Squadron Four
and with its 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit
USS San Antonio (LPD17) assault ship
USS Velia Gulf (CG72) guided missile cruiser
USS Ramage (DDG61) guided missile destroyer
USS Carter Hall (LSD50) assault ship
USS Roosevelt (DDG80) guided missile destroyer
USS Hartfore (SSN768) nuclear powered hunter-killer submarine
Carrier Strike Group Seven
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN76) nuclear powered supercarrier
with its Carrier Air Wing 14
Destroyer Squadron 7
USS Chancellorsville (CG62) guided missile cruiser
USS Howard (DDG83) guided missile destroyer
USS Gridley (DDG101) guided missile destroyer
USS Decatur (DDG73) guided missile destroyer
USS Thach (FFG43) guided missile frigate
USNS Rainier (T-AOE-7) fast combat support ship
Also likely to join the battle armada:
UK Royal Navy HMS Ark Royal Carrier Strike Group with assorted guided missile destroyers and frigates, nuclear hunter-killer submarines and support ships
French Navy nuclear powered hunter-killer submarines (likely the Amethyste and perhaps others), plus French Naval Rafale fighter jets operating off of the USS Theodore Roosevelt as the French Carrier Charles de Gaulle is in dry dock, and assorted surface warships
Various other US Navy warships and submarines and support ships. The following USN ships took part (as the "enemy" forces) in Operation Brimstone and several may join in:
USS San Jacinto (CG56) guided missile cruiser
USS Anzio (CG68) guided missile cruiser
USS Normandy (CG60) guided missile cruiser
USS Carney (DDG64) guided missile destroyer
USS Oscar Austin (DDG79) guided missile destroyer
USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG81) guided missile destroyer
USS Carr (FFG52) guided missile frigate
The USS Iwo Jima and USS Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Groups have USMC Harrier jump jets and an assortment of assault and attack helicopters. The Expeditionary Strike Groups have powerful USMC Expeditionary Units with amphibious armor and ground forces trained for operating in shallow waters and in seizures of land assets, such as Qeshm Island (a 50 mile long island off of Bandar Abbas in the Gulf of Hormuz and headquarters of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps).
The large and very advanced nature of the US Naval warships is not only directed at Iran. There is a great fear that Russia and China may oppose the naval and air/land blockade of Iran. If Russian and perhaps Chinese naval warships escort commercial tankers to Iran in violation of the blockade it could be the most dangerous at-sea confrontation since the Cuban Missile Crisis. The US and allied Navies, by front loading a Naval blockade force with very powerful guided missile warships and strike carriers is attempting to have a force so powerful that Russia and China will not be tempted to challenge it.
The Russian Navy this spring sent a major battle fleet into the Mediterranean headed by the modern aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov and the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, the Guided Missile Heavy Cruiser Moskva. This powerful fleet has at least 11 surface ships and unknown numbers of subs and can use the Russian naval facility at Syria's Tartous port for resupply. The Admiral Kuznetsov carries approximately 47 warplanes and 10 helicopters. The warplanes are mostly the powerful Su-33, a naval version (with mid-air refueling capability) of the Su-27 family. While the Su-33 is a very powerful warplane it lacks the power of the stealth USAF F-22. However, the Russians insist that they have developed a plasma based system that allows them to stealth any aircraft and a recent incident where Russian fighters were able to appear unannounced over a US Navy carrier battle group tends to confirm their claims. The Su-33 can be armed with the 3M82 Moskit sea-skimming missile (NATO code name SS-N-22 Sunburn) and the even more powerful P-800 Oniks (also named Yakhonts; NATO code name SS-N-26 Onyx). Both missiles are designed to kill US Navy supercarriers by getting past the cruiser/destroyer screen and the USN point-defense Phalanx system by using high supersonic speeds and violent end maneuvers. Russian subs currently use the underwater rocket VA-111 Shkval (Squall), which is fired from standard 533mm torpedo tubes and reaches a speed of 360kph (230mph) underwater. There is no effective countermeasures to this system and no western counterpart.
A strategic diversion has been created for Russia. The Republic of Georgia, with US backing, is actively preparing for war on South Ossetia. The South Ossetia capital has been shelled and a large Georgian tank force has been heading towards the border. Russia has stated that it will not sit by and allow the Georgians to attack South Ossetia. The Russians are master chess players.
UPDATE 8 August 2008 ~ War has broken out between Georgia and South Ossetia. At least 10 Russian troops have been killed and 30 wounded and 2 Russian fighter jets downed. American Marines, a thousand of them, have recently been in Georgia training the Georgian military forces. Several European nations stopped Bush and others from allowing Georgia into NATO. Russia is moving a large military force with armor towards the area. This could get bad, and remember it is just a strategic diversion....but one that could have horrific effects. Link to story "Russia sends forces into Georgia rebel conflict".
FURTHER UPDATE ~ Russian military forces in active combat; now total of four Russian fighter jets reported downed.
ADDITIONAL UPDATE ~ Georgia calls for US help; Russian Air Force bombs Georgian air bases. DEBKA, the Israeli strategy and military site, states that Israeli military officers are advising the Georgian armed forces in combat operations and that 1,000 Israelis are in-combat on the side of Georgia at this time.
Kuwait has activated its "Emergency War Plan" as it and other Gulf nations prepare for the likelihood of a major regional war in the Middle East involving weapons of mass destruction.
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In June, Israel reportedly conducted an exercise involving long-range flights by warplanes, with mid-air re-fuelling, as part of its build-up to military action against Iran. And now, the reports say, “information” that Israel is preparing to hit Iran is being deliberately leaked by “Washington sources” in order to warn Moscow that by refusing to vote for a fourth round of UN sanctions against Tehran, it was nudging Israel into taking military action on its own.
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One gets the feeling that a giant game of international chess is being played right now, and that both the situation with Israel, the United States and Iran on the one hand, and the situation with Russia and Georgia on the other, are connected as part of that big game.
All you have to do is look at a map of the Republic of Georgia.. Now visualize Tehran. Then on the same map, visualize how we have our entire military completely surrounding Iran.
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Good lord I sure hope they do not have windows Vista, it'll ask are you sure you want to fire that missle ? are you sure it sould be armed after firing, do you want it to exolode. I can see it now but I'm sure they have enough software nut never to let that happen. and like wow I've been on all those ships except for the subs, that would be cool for an extended time.
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