Zastava_101

I am trying to install home network in my house in which me and my brother would share 1 phone line and both of us should have internet.
I got all stuff (hub, NIC, cables), and I followed directions from Microsoft site (Click Here).

However, step 3 says "On the Advanced tab, select the Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet connection check box, and then click OK.".
Problem is, on my Advanced tab that options doesn't exist. Only options under advanced tab is firewall options.

I'm doing something wrong? Anyone have better instructions on what to do? I did all hardware work, problem is software.

Thanks.

incorrigible

Trying doing it this way..... Start, Control Panel, Network & Internet Connections! Then... use the Network Setup Wizard near the bottom. Click next a couple of times through the "checklist for creating a network" page until you come to the "Select a connection method" page. Put a bullet in the first option, "This computer connects directly to the internet. The other computers on my network connect to the Internet through this computer." Then choose your NIC card, then click next to accept your computer name (computer description is not neeeded), then pick a workgroup name or leave it at MSHOME, then turn on or off file and print sharing and click next twice more! ICS should now be on and working.

Hope this helped!

pilot1129

wait wait wait, are you trying to network a dial up phone line? as far as i know, you can only network broadband connections and i work for the geek squad. if i'm wrong, this will be a slap in the face.

IIGood

It is possible, but I don't know if it's as straight-forward as a broadband connection. Been a while since I've done it (and since I've had dial-up), but here's how we had to do it...

The phone line came into the PC, and the PC was running some proxy software, like WinProxy. Then the LAN cable from the PC went to the hub and divied up the connection between 3 other computers in the house. Only problem with WinProxy was that it would only allow a certain number of connections, maybe 5 at the most.

Now, it may be possible to do it in a way similar to broadband now, but I don't know.

Zastava_101

I tought that dial-up could be a problem. I don't use home computer very often, that's why I don't wanna pay more $$$ for high speed. I did these kind of things for people that use high speed, but never for dial-up.

Thanks for your help.

houtex

Oh, yes, you get a .

It was easily done with Windows 98 SE and Windows 2000. I think it was with XP SP1 too, but by then, who really did that anymore? With the new SP2, I don't know, that whole new firewall/security thing is screwin' up the works. But I'm pretty sure I could do it with that too, just gimme a minute. Wait. I'm on cable. What the heck do I need with trying the dialup? :P

As far as the Micro$oft document, well, it's an August of 2001 work, so how correct is it gonna be? Especially with XP SP2! (I assume it's XP SP2 we're dealin' with here, Red?... It probably doesn't matter, you know software engineers, they just love to change things...)

Also, you shouldn't need any proxies or extra software to do it, just ICS. So if you take advice earlier about how to get about the setup, what, the second post? I bet it works.

I would recommend an entire extra box to handle it. It's just better that way.
I would suggest you get an old P1 working with Windows 98 Second Edition, and set up your dialup in that machine. Hang it on your network, and use the ICS in it, tell your machines to get IPs automatically, and that will solve the problem. It's cheap, and it works. I ran an always on DSL that way, and I set up another company to run dialup that way. You can use RealVNC (google for it), or if you have it, pcAnywhere, to control it from remote. Tada!

Google for WebRamp M3s. Maybe you can find one on ebay. That'd work too.

Let us know!

/ok, maybe the P1 box is overkill. But it *would* work, ya know...

HastaLaVista

The option only exists on the advanced tab if you're logged in as System Administrator. Not just a user with admin ability, but as the default user you defined when you installed XP.

Scothew

It can be done. The problem that entails with ICS (internet connection sharing) is that the host computer (one with the dial up connection) has to have a IP address of 192.168.0.1 on the LAN side. MS will not recognize it if you dont.

Here is what I have had to do (yes I have dial up shared at home as well). I have a 4-port router and with my DHCP settings i had to set the DNS numbers to that of what my dial up ISP gives me (basically the DNS settings that the main computer gets on its dial up, your computer or router will need those hard coded into the IP settings). Then if you arent setting static IP's on the computers, you will have to go into the advanced section of the Internet Protocol of the computer and set 192.168.0.1 as the gateway. That is the only way to do it properly.

If you dont, its a very hit or miss type thing and windows will often "forget" to share the connection properly. Also on the computer with the dial up,make sure you have it set to share it. Defintely be logged in as a sys admin and i'd go ahead and be running sp1. I wouldnt worry with the windows firewall though, get something like the panda anti-virus platnium that has the firewall built in. Much better than Zone Alarm

houtex

Not true. Sorry. But it will set up the host as that, yes. Then you hack the registry to change the IP numbers manually to whatever you want the host to be, how many clients, etc.

Anyway, just couldn't let that pass as fact. Had to do it to a client once. Fun times. The ICS host wound up being 10.192.54.4 or something like that. And no clients, but DHCP was on. Heh. Static IPs for every other computer, gateways to the host, and voila! It all works.

Ain't easy, but it works.

Oh, but hey, we're gettin' pretty deep for laymen, aren't we?

Scothew

yeah maybe a lil more than most wanted.

I am going to dig into that registry hack tomm cause if i can make the default gateway the specified IP i want, that'd make my life so much easier.

Zastava_101

I already tried to assign that IP, but then I can't log on Internet. I get message that my IP is not correct.

Scothew

did you assign an IP for the computer or did you go into advanced and go to gateway?

Zastava_101

I assigned IP for a comp.

I'm supposed to go under advanced, then add under default gateways?

Scothew

what IP's did you assign for each computer?

the one with the dial up should be 192.168.0.1

Zastava_101

Do I need to assign IP under Dial-Up or under LAN?

Scothew

under LAN

Scothew

your dial up provider should automatically assign all the others.

Zastava_101

I changed IP under Dial-Up, that's why it didn't work.

Scothew

yeah you need to leave that to automatic

houtex

But the 5 speeds more fun!

Oh wait. Networking. Right. Auto on Lan, hold the Mayo.

/what? MikeyB! needs a vacay and/or alcohol...