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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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OMG I didnt watch the recap marathon but just found the preview that they showed at the end of it for upcoming episodes, dont watch if you dont want any spoilers there are a few.....

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Ok so DL and Niki get back together (although it looks like her alter ego based on the look on her face), Mohinder goes back to India, Claires father finds Issaac and needs his help? (can he be good after all?), Mikah definately knows about both of his parents powers, a new Hero that looks like he has either telekenetic or pyro powers (seen making a glass of water boil), Nathan and Peter test how fast they can fly, and they are all coming together and learning their powers this is gonna be kick ****.

Another thing in the intro to every episode we see the sun coming around the Earth in a big solar flare/glare, or at least we are assuming its the sun, could it be the blast that they need to stop from destroying the earth? Just a thought.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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I don't think Claire's father is bad at all. I believe he is there to learn about these people and eventually be the middle man that connects them all throughout the world.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rrobello
Another thing in the intro to every episode we see the sun coming around the Earth in a big solar flare/glare, or at least we are assuming its the sun, could it be the blast that they need to stop from destroying the earth? Just a thought.
It was my impression that the intro and the painting that Isaac does is referring to the solar eclipse that happened in the first episode. I think the solar eclipse has something to do with thier powers coming to light... none of them seemed to know about thier powers until that day.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JessicaRabbitt
It was my impression that the intro and the painting that Isaac does is referring to the solar eclipse that happened in the first episode. I think the solar eclipse has something to do with thier powers coming to light... none of them seemed to know about thier powers until that day.
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I totally forgot about the eclipse, good one, NM my thought then.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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wow she's alive!!!!! How are you doing? I hope things are going well. Havent heard from you in a while. Did u ever get my messages on Myspace about Surfside?

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I totally forgot about the eclipse, good one, NM my thought then.
We had to kill that account, and I cant make SD stuff at all. My kid has been pretty sick this year, and since the move, things have just been absolutely insane. But, yes, I am alive, havent done one single new thing to my car. Hubby isnt so happy that I have been back on TMS, I am seeing all this new cool stuff for me!

I really think the eclipse is more important than we are all giving it credit for. Its in almost EVERY episode, outside of the intro... Isaac seems to have had his power PRIOR to the eclipse (I forgot about his when I mentioned it earlier) because he painted the eclipse.

I also agree that the reason Claire needs to be saved is because if Sylar gets to her and kills her then he gets her powers. Her powers inconjunction with the ones he apparently already has, would make him unstopable. I think the bomb is just one symbol of world destruction, New York being the quintessential symbol of the US.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Oops... I meant to say Claire's dad( mr. bennet?) not Sylar, but I have thought about whether or not they are the same person.

Superman can fly that fast and come out without a scratch because nothing hurts him (man of steel)... Nathan does not have Superman's invulnerability, this was shown when he landed and skidded on his feet; his feet started burning.

My theory on why the cheerleader is important is because Peter could become the ultimate hero if he is around all of the mutants during a battle.

And totally agree with Sylar having telekinises... the way he was throwing everyone around in that episode proves it... and I'm pretty sure that he was able to pick himself up and fly (Jean Grey style)
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JessicaRabbitt
We had to kill that account, and I cant make SD stuff at all. My kid has been pretty sick this year, and since the move, things have just been absolutely insane. But, yes, I am alive, havent done one single new thing to my car. Hubby isnt so happy that I have been back on TMS, I am seeing all this new cool stuff for me!

I really think the eclipse is more important than we are all giving it credit for. Its in almost EVERY episode, outside of the intro... Isaac seems to have had his power PRIOR to the eclipse (I forgot about his when I mentioned it earlier) because he painted the eclipse.

I also agree that the reason Claire needs to be saved is because if Sylar gets to her and kills her then he gets her powers. Her powers inconjunction with the ones he apparently already has, would make him unstopable. I think the bomb is just one symbol of world destruction, New York being the quintessential symbol of the US.
Good to hear you are doing well, not much has been done to my car since we last spoke either but it should be really taking off after SEMA, I have been in the works on several things for it and my 98. All of the Meguiars stuff has really paid off.

It seems they all had their powers before the eclipse, Claire had been trying to kill herself for a while, Niki's blackouts could be the reason DL is sought after by the police, Mikah knows of his parents powers, Nathan knew he could fly before Peter approached him, all of these things and others all seem to lend to the idea that they had their powers before the eclipse, but it does seem to be of some importance.

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Oops... I meant to say Claire's dad( mr. bennet?) not Sylar, but I have thought about whether or not they are the same person.

Superman can fly that fast and come out without a scratch because nothing hurts him (man of steel)... Nathan does not have Superman's invulnerability, this was shown when he landed and skidded on his feet; his feet started burning.

My theory on why the cheerleader is important is because Peter could become the ultimate hero if he is around all of the mutants during a battle.

And totally agree with Sylar having telekinises... the way he was throwing everyone around in that episode proves it... and I'm pretty sure that he was able to pick himself up and fly (Jean Grey style)
So next time Nathan needs to wear shoes...lol, but it looks like we will be able to see just how fast he can fly soon, based on the previews.

Yes Peter does seem to have a lot of potential, also why I think the theory of Sylar being his alter ego is still pheasable. But yes Claires survival itself could very well be what is meant by save the cheerleader save the world and not so much her actually saving the world.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Oh yea... love the Sylar/Peter alter ego idea. It's a great one
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by thezeppelin8
Oh yea... love the Sylar/Peter alter ego idea. It's a great one

You know something i didnt really think about that until just now. I mean in the little girls house..you see how differently the two parents were killed. He uses others powers...so therefor that is how he threw the knives at the mom and froze the dad. i totally see it now...but what is thwrowing me for a loop is the telekenisis. where is that coming from
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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I don't believe Sylar is Peter at all. Peter is able to harness others powers, but cannot keep them. Sylar is able to steal powers by removing the brains of his victims. I will go by this unless something drastic happens.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Maybe "Sylar" is more than one person. No one seems to know much about him/her/them. Maybe Sylar is the group of villains that the Heroes will battle.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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No...Sylar is an individual. He left a message on the answering machine.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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I have seen every episode and dont remember hearing a message from sylar or seeing him do things, whish episodes does he do this in so I can go back and see evience of him.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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I have seen every episode and dont remember hearing a message from sylar or seeing him do things, whish episodes does he do this in so I can go back and see evience of him.
Dunno remember which episode, but the professor's son is in the professor's apartment with the girl neighbor. They listen to an old message on the answering machine. Sylar says some stuff and thanks the professor for allowing him to realize how much potential he had.

We witness what Sylar can do:
  • When the cop goes into the house hearing the little girl's thoughts. We see the mother impaled on the stair case with various objects and the dad is frozen with his skull sliced open.
  • The female FBI agent and the mind reading cop go to the little girl's holding cell. They see an officer impaled to the ceiling with a chair. Then when the female FBI agent catches up with Sylar, she pulls on Sylar and her gun then goes to her head...she's unable to pull it away. The mind-reader then comes around the corner and fires several shots into Sylar. The cop then checks on the FBI agent. We then see Sylar stand up (or is standing again) and the next thing we know, he's gone.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by freebass55
I don't believe Sylar is Peter at all. Peter is able to harness others powers, but cannot keep them. Sylar is able to steal powers by removing the brains of his victims. I will go by this unless something drastic happens.
well we havent seen Peter cut anyones head off yet, perhaps this is what is needed to be done to keep the powers permanently, so it is possible that in the future Peter is turned evil or has an alter ego that is split off from him as Venom was from Spidey, or a clone or perhaps a twin we dont know about???? what if he and/or the others are a result of a military genetics program and there is another exact copy of Peter somewhere we havent seen yet either acting on his own or under he control of the organization that created them. But it would go on the fact that at some point this Sylar will eventually kill Hiro and take his powers so he can travel through time to steal other peoples powers, if indeed it does have something to do with Peter. And of course I am just going off of what would make sense from a creative tvshow/comic book standpoint, it would make sense to go this route then to have 2 characters that just so happen to have the same powers, thats boring.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostTX
Dunno remember which episode, but the professor's son is in the professor's apartment with the girl neighbor. They listen to an old message on the answering machine. Sylar says some stuff and thanks the professor for allowing him to realize how much potential he had.

We witness what Sylar can do:
  • When the cop goes into the house hearing the little girl's thoughts. We see the mother impaled on the stair case with various objects and the dad is frozen with his skull sliced open.
  • The female FBI agent and the mind reading cop go to the little girl's holding cell. They see an officer impaled to the ceiling with a chair. Then when the female FBI agent catches up with Sylar, she pulls on Sylar and her gun then goes to her head...she's unable to pull it away. The mind-reader then comes around the corner and fires several shots into Sylar. The cop then checks on the FBI agent. We then see Sylar stand up (or is standing again) and the next thing we know, he's gone.
I believe it was the third or 4th episode that they listen to the message left by Sylar and then 1 or 2 episodes later we see Sylars place where he has writen on the wall "I have sinned, please help me" or "forgive me" or something like that, also lends to the idea that it is a split personality (possibly Peters) and he is aware of what he is doing but cant control it (but again if it is Peter it would have to be Peter from the future, since he obviously isnt currently aware of anything no less that he is killing people)

And when Sylar is shot he stands up and flies away

also another tidbit as to Sylar perhaps being Claires father would be that the only person we have seen so far beside Sylar that has had contact with both Mohinder and his father is Claires dad, coincidence????
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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also another tidbit as to Sylar perhaps being Claires father would be that the only person we have seen so far beside Sylar that has had contact with both Mohinder and his father is Claires dad, coincidence????
I don't think Sylar is Claire's dad at all. Claire's dad is either:
- Government agent trying to stop the mutants.
- Government agent trying to contain the mutants.
- Government agent assessing the mutant threat.

I don't why everybody is obsessed with Sylar being Peter or anyone else. Why can't Sylar be some whacked out bad *****? Why complicate a "simple" bad guy? Sylar is way ahead of the curve that he already knows he's a mutant. He knows how to obtain more mutant powers. And, he's probably power hungry.

Further...if Hiro from the future knows Peter is Sylar, why not whack him on the frozen Subway...then no more problem. Cheerleader is saved. World is safe. Heroes series ends.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rrobello
well we havent seen Peter cut anyones head off yet, perhaps this is what is needed to be done to keep the powers permanently, so it is possible that in the future Peter is turned evil or has an alter ego that is split off from him as Venom was from Spidey, or a clone or perhaps a twin we dont know about???? what if he and/or the others are a result of a military genetics program and there is another exact copy of Peter somewhere we havent seen yet either acting on his own or under he control of the organization that created them. But it would go on the fact that at some point this Sylar will eventually kill Hiro and take his powers so he can travel through time to steal other peoples powers, if indeed it does have something to do with Peter. And of course I am just going off of what would make sense from a creative tvshow/comic book standpoint, it would make sense to go this route then to have 2 characters that just so happen to have the same powers, thats boring.
This picture shows Sylars Birthdate and real name. It is two different people.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostTX
I don't think Sylar is Claire's dad at all. Claire's dad is either:
- Government agent trying to stop the mutants.
- Government agent trying to contain the mutants.
- Government agent assessing the mutant threat.

I don't why everybody is obsessed with Sylar being Peter or anyone else. Why can't Sylar be some whacked out bad *****? Why complicate a "simple" bad guy? Sylar is way ahead of the curve that he already knows he's a mutant. He knows how to obtain more mutant powers. And, he's probably power hungry.

Further...if Hiro from the future knows Peter is Sylar, why not whack him on the frozen Subway...then no more problem. Cheerleader is saved. World is safe. Heroes series ends.
not obsessed with Peter being Sylar just throwing out some ideas, it would be cool if Sylar was just a simple bad ****, not as exciting of a story line, also I think it is kind of lame if they have 2 characters in the show with the same powers.

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This picture shows Sylars Birthdate and real name. It is two different people.
great find, whered you get that? it also looks as though he might be some religous zelot or figure....interesting!!!!!
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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I remember reading or hearing somewhere that Mr. Bennet is Claire's Adoptvive father
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