Gas Prices
Somebody start a new poll... related to this subject... who is going to use regular gas, and who is going to use premium? Just curious on who is going to actually want to spend the extra money (with gas prices being so high these days already) to use the premium stuff, when the car is made to take regular fuel, and probably won't do hardly anything to get premium. I'm using regular fuel... will help out at least with price per gallon being out of hand, as it is.
Originally posted by WaveMan2k3@Jun. 1st, 2004, 2:08 PM
i doubt that anyone will pay extra for premium now... its just too bloody expensive.
i doubt that anyone will pay extra for premium now... its just too bloody expensive.
Originally posted by GhostTX@Jun. 1st, 2004, 8:11 AM
Canada is like the #3 exporter of oil to the USA. Why are prices that much higher? Must be insane taxes...or expensive refining.
Canada is like the #3 exporter of oil to the USA. Why are prices that much higher? Must be insane taxes...or expensive refining.
Decipher,
if you owned an oil company based in Alberta and the price of oil went up, I doubt you would sell it at less than market value, no busniessman would. They are just letting the $$ flow in. Its sad but true.
Maybe once they figure out how to extract oil from the tar sands for a good price, north america will not be as dependant on foreign oil and then the prices will drop big time.
if you owned an oil company based in Alberta and the price of oil went up, I doubt you would sell it at less than market value, no busniessman would. They are just letting the $$ flow in. Its sad but true.
Maybe once they figure out how to extract oil from the tar sands for a good price, north america will not be as dependant on foreign oil and then the prices will drop big time.
There is more oil in Alaska then there is in the entire middle east.
The reasons people don't want it?
1) Oil companies don't want the hit on their profits
2) It would damage some wildlife habitat.
3) People worried about something similar to the Exxon Valdez
4) You can find people against ANYTHING.
The reasons people don't want it?
1) Oil companies don't want the hit on their profits
2) It would damage some wildlife habitat.
3) People worried about something similar to the Exxon Valdez
4) You can find people against ANYTHING.
Drilling in Alaska would be a bad idea. The only thing that can be done is switching to alternative fuels. It's better in the short and long term for every aspect except the initial cost of switching everyone over.
And Galaxie, yeah, I'm well aware of the workings of capitalism. Greed overwhelms everyone and people suffer. I'm not saying I'm a commie. Communism in it's truist form is totally sound, but impossible. Human nature and corruption with power stand in the way. Capitalism is the way to go in the end, we're just implimenting it wrong. Anywhoo.. Back to topic.
And Galaxie, yeah, I'm well aware of the workings of capitalism. Greed overwhelms everyone and people suffer. I'm not saying I'm a commie. Communism in it's truist form is totally sound, but impossible. Human nature and corruption with power stand in the way. Capitalism is the way to go in the end, we're just implimenting it wrong. Anywhoo.. Back to topic.
Originally posted by Decipher+Jun. 1st, 2004, 3:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Decipher @ Jun. 1st, 2004, 3:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-GhostTX@Jun. 1st, 2004, 8:11 AM
Canada is like the #3 exporter of oil to the USA. Why are prices that much higher? Must be insane taxes...or expensive refining.
Canada is like the #3 exporter of oil to the USA. Why are prices that much higher? Must be insane taxes...or expensive refining.

Drilling in Alaska would be a bad idea. The only thing that can be done is switching to alternative fuels. It's better in the short and long term for every aspect except the initial cost of switching everyone over.
And Galaxie, yeah, I'm well aware of the workings of capitalism. Greed overwhelms everyone and people suffer. I'm not saying I'm a commie. Communism in it's truist form is totally sound, but impossible. Human nature and corruption with power stand in the way. Capitalism is the way to go in the end, we're just implimenting it wrong. Anywhoo.. Back to topic. [/b][/quote]
wow, decipher
we're both on the same page
nice way to put it in words
I guess we don't need to drill in Alaska, all we gotta do is drive hybrids, then again i don't see why i would by an electric Mustang if a Prius would do the job, so fast is one thing but the sound thrill that you get out of it is something else.
Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 1st, 2004, 5:18 PM
Ok, one simple question then Decipher: Why is drilling in Alaska a bad idea to you?
Ok, one simple question then Decipher: Why is drilling in Alaska a bad idea to you?
Montreal Ponies - Hybrid is a step in the right direction, but the best method will either be Hydrogen Fuel Cells or Hydrogen Combustion. Hydrogen combustion, as I've said before, means that existing cars won't be shipped off to the crusher, but instead can be converted to burn hydrogen, a fuel that's infinitely renewable (the single most abundant element in the universe) and the only harmful gases produced are nitrogen compounds, which with the use of a type catalytic convertor, can be reduced to the point where the air coming out of the tailpipe of the car is actually cleaner than the ambient air in a major city! The sound thrill is still there, since the pistons are still pumping - only the fuel, the fuel storage, and method of delivery into the engine has changed. With the technology out there even now, these engines can be just as powerful as their gasoline counterparts.
The only problem is that the average North American doesn't know any of these great technologies exist, and revolutions start with the people. Everyone thinks Hydrogen is some dangerous gas, which it isn't. I've said it many times before, but in many, many ways it's safer than gasoline.
Hydrogen may be safer, but its also nearly completely free. Thats why it will never catch on here. No profit in it for anyone.
I'm not going to trash environmentalists, because we're here to talk stangs. However, the proposed oil drilling sites are over 300-500 miles from any major faults. Also, there has never been any harm on a fault from drilling, anywhere in the world.
I'm not going to trash environmentalists, because we're here to talk stangs. However, the proposed oil drilling sites are over 300-500 miles from any major faults. Also, there has never been any harm on a fault from drilling, anywhere in the world.
True enough, but emptying the oil below leaves holes/caves. Caves can be prone to collapsing when the substance that helped support the ceiling is removed.
Yeah, Hydrogen may be "free" but it's not free to harvest, refine, store, and dispense. Gas companies could easily switch over and still make money doing the above. It's not like the average person can just flip a switch and gather hydrogen from the air. Anyhoo...
Yeah, Hydrogen may be "free" but it's not free to harvest, refine, store, and dispense. Gas companies could easily switch over and still make money doing the above. It's not like the average person can just flip a switch and gather hydrogen from the air. Anyhoo...



