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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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where have you been....I think everyone in the WWE was on roids....I'll almost gaurantee it. anyone remember when benoit first started in the WCW, he was tiny, now he couldn't even touch his belt without straining....this only took 2 years....this does not happen in the normal world.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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btw, I have seen roid rage in action....I remember helping 6 other guys hold down a linemen in our school when he just went nuts and went after a freshman, he almost killed the kid. 2 weeks later he was back in school and apologized to the kid and all of us and said he was off the roids and didn't remember anything about what happened....it's a fact roids do this, and then people don't remember. I think he flipped, and then when he finally came to and realized what he had done, killed himself. it's the only plausable explanation, I don't know how anyone could kill there own blood (his son) and be sane at the time, a wife, ya, cause there coulda been something found out bad, ie, cheating on him, that would cause bad bad reaction and many times has in a non-roid situation, but to kill an innocent child is rediculous. it was roids.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by adrenalin
After reading what he did to his wife and son I have to agree, I have no remorse for him what so ever. WWE should not have a "special" or huge dedication to this guy. Sure, a quick post showing he passed away would be normal, but that is where it should end. His wife and son are the ones that should be remembered, not him!
I don't believe World Wrestling Entertainment can be blamed for doing the tribute. In their defense they didn't know all the details of this tragic situation and going on what they had at the time, they did what they decided was best and that was to honor one of their fallen superstars, the same way they did for Owen Hart and Eddie Guerrero the only difference is that Guerrero and Hart deserved the remembrance. WWE has since then done the right thing and pulled all of the tributes and dedications they had on their website for Benoit. Furthermore they have removed all merchandise related to Chris Benoit from their website, including excluding his name from DVDs in which he was a participant.

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I bet anything he was on steroids. I hope WWE gets sued if it is because they should know if one of their wrestlers were taking steroids or not.
Why would WWE be sued? It's not like they knew what was going on in his Benoit's personal life. From all accounts and what I read, he was a very private person when it came to that issue and didn't talk about it with anyone within the business. Also from the reports online and given out by the Associated Press, Benoit had a history of violence or being violent so much to the point that his wife filed for a restraining order and a divorce at one point fearing for the safety of herself, and her child. WWE has had a wellness in policy in affect since shorty after the death of Eddie Guerrero in 2005. If Benoit tested positive for steroid use I don't think they would continue letting Benoit wrestle especially when they have suspended or even fired certain wrestlers who had continued drug use after testing positive. WWE can't be blamed for this tragedy and I hope no one (including the media) tries to spin it as such. I honestly believe if the WWE knew of what was going on in Benoit's personal life they may have tried to interveen, if only for the sake of the child...as they have a history of interveening in their wrestlers lives whenever they have a drug, alcohol or mental issue and getting them help. Steroids may or may not have anything to do with this issue, it may be as simple as Benoit going into a blind rage...I mean who knows. Either way I don't see the WWE being blamed or being sued if it comes out this was a result of residual or chronic steroidal abuse.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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And how long between the deaths... really screwed up
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Just finished watching the press conference on CNN and the lead investigator Scott Ballard believes that Benoit murdered his wife Friday night with her body being discovered in an office type room. The body of his young son was found in an upstairs bedroom, they believe that he was killed Saturday morning while Benoit's body was found in the weightroom in his house. The investigator states that Benoit used a pulley from one of his weight machines to kill himself Saturday afternoon. They also found a lot of what they believe was legal prescription drugs in his house including steriods but will not speculate whether he was taking any at the time of the murders. They are still waiting for the toxicology reports to come back. There were no suicide notes, contrary to what had been stated by other news outlets but bibles were placed beside each of the victim's bodies.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Hrm..what about the text messages supposedly sent from his phone to friends on sunday?
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 06 Slvr Bullitt
I don't believe World Wrestling Entertainment can be blamed for doing the tribute. In their defense they didn't know all the details of this tragic situation and going on what they had at the time, they did what they decided was best and that was to honor one of their fallen superstars, the same way they did for Owen Hart and Eddie Guerrero the only difference is that Guerrero and Hart deserved the remembrance. WWE has since then done the right thing and pulled all of the tributes and dedications they had on their website for Benoit. Furthermore they have removed all merchandise related to Chris Benoit from their website, including excluding his name from DVDs in which he was a participant.



Why would WWE be sued? It's not like they knew what was going on in his Benoit's personal life. From all accounts and what I read, he was a very private person when it came to that issue and didn't talk about it with anyone within the business. Also from the reports online and given out by the Associated Press, Benoit had a history of violence or being violent so much to the point that his wife filed for a restraining order and a divorce at one point fearing for the safety of herself, and her child. WWE has had a wellness in policy in affect since shorty after the death of Eddie Guerrero in 2005. If Benoit tested positive for steroid use I don't think they would continue letting Benoit wrestle especially when they have suspended or even fired certain wrestlers who had continued drug use after testing positive. WWE can't be blamed for this tragedy and I hope no one (including the media) tries to spin it as such. I honestly believe if the WWE knew of what was going on in Benoit's personal life they may have tried to interveen, if only for the sake of the child...as they have a history of interveening in their wrestlers lives whenever they have a drug, alcohol or mental issue and getting them help. Steroids may or may not have anything to do with this issue, it may be as simple as Benoit going into a blind rage...I mean who knows. Either way I don't see the WWE being blamed or being sued if it comes out this was a result of residual or chronic steroidal abuse.
I only want to see the WWE get sued if it is because of illegal drug use. I dont care how personal his life was, this is the WWE were talking about.. out of any company in the world they should have the most drug tests. Im not saying its their faults this happened, but if they do investigate them and find out that they didnt have manditory drug tests or that they didnt do anything if they found out about his problem if he had one then they should be sued. but hey i dont want to jump to conclusions. For all we know he couldeve been clean......
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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that would be like suing ford motor company for not testing their drivers for any illegal substances. not gonna happen...that's an upsurd thing to expect. there are ways around tests anyway....always has been, always will be. I liked benoit, but always knew he wasn't right in the head...someone look at his old pics and tell me you could look in his eyes and say he was a perfectly sane man. steroids are not anything uncommon in any aspect of sports in any country, or at any level. I've seen it from the lowest forms of sports to professional, it's not hard to believe as steroids are cheap, and their results as far as strength building are unsurpassed, however like many legal drugs they have their abusers and their side effects are alot like other drugs... steroids are used in medical purposes from the smallest arthritis case to high up to keep someone healthy from an unknown disease. it's a great drug, but has horrible side effects in some people. the kid I spoke of in my post above is still clean and has been very open and very against it's use....he was using it marginally, he was doing 1 "shorty" injection per week and it affected him in that way....I can only imagine when they use it in massive amounts, the shorty is a term they use for 1/2 the normal dose of it.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Steroid rage well documented! The juice will set you loose! Its a shame his wife and child had to pay the price!
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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For anyone who wants a detailed review of the press conference. This just gets more weirder and weirder.

Originally Posted by pwinsider
A press conference was held this afternoon to inform the media of the latest findings in the investigation of the deaths of Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy Benoit and their son Daniel. Here is information from the press conference, which was held outside of the Benoit home in Fayetteville, Georgia.

Sheriffs Lieutenant Tommy Pope spoke first.

- He discussed how authorities had received a phone call from WWE at 2:30pm yesterday out of concern when they couldn't get in touch with him. The police searched the Benoit home and discovered the three bodies. At this point, the autopsy has been completed and the investigators are ruling this a double homicide and suicide.

- Going by reports from the medical examiner, it is believed by investigators that Benoit asphyxiated his wife, possibly as early as Friday, then asphyxiated his son on Saturday. Both deaths are currently being ruled as death by asphyxiation. Then it is believed that late Saturday or early Sunday, Benoit hung himself. Pope stated that is was several hours, but no more than a day, between the time of Daniel's death and the time that Benoit hung himself. Toxicology reports are still being worked on, but that is the findings of the investigators at this time.

- There was no suicide note found in the home.

- Daniel Benoit was located in his bedroom, Nancy Benoit was located in an office area, both in the upstairs part of the house.

- Pope said they would not discuss any possible motives for Benoit's actions at this time. Pope also said that they were not able to determine his state of mind as a result of investigating the crime scene.

- When asked if Benoit had an arrest record, Pope noted he had been arrested once on an DUI, but in their jurisdiction they had no knowledge of any arrests or any record of domestic violence. He had no knowledge of any divorce filings.

- Pope stated that there was a lot of prescription medication, which they believe was all legally prescribed. He did not have a full list of drugs, but when pressed by the media, Pope stated that there was anabolic steroids. He noted that there was a prescription for them.

- Pope stated that Benoit did send a text message to a "co-worker" during the weekend, who received it several hours after it was sent. Pope would not disclose the contents of the message or who it was sent to.

District Attorney Scott Ballard then fielded questions from the media.

- Regarding a comment Ballard had made about the deaths being "bizarre", Ballard said that he felt the presumed timing of the deaths of the victims and the suicide was bizarre, as it would mean that Benoit was in the home for several hours with the dead bodies.

- There was a bible placed next to the body of Nancy and a bible next to the body of Daniel. There was no bible found in the room where Benoit hung himself.

- Nancy Benoit was bound around her feet and her wrists (Ballard seemed unsure about the wrists at first), and blood was found under her head. She was clothed, but wrapped in a towel in an office area in the upstairs part of the house.

- Daniel Benoit's body was found in his bed, he was clothed. His bedroom was also in the upstairs part of the home.

- Benoit's body was found in a weight room in the basement of the home. He had hung himself using the cable and pulley system on an exercise machine.

- Ballard reiterated that the autopsy reports indicate that Nancy Benoit was killed on Friday, Daniel Benoit on Saturday morning, and that it is believed Benoit died later Saturday, possibly Sunday.

- The subject of Benoit calling WWE this weekend and informing them that he had to miss the shows due to a family emergency was brought up. Ballard said was not aware of what Benoit claimed the family emergency was.

- Ballard said he had not seen the documents, but noted he had been informed of the order of protection that Nancy Benoit had filed for, but later asked to be rescinded several years ago.

- Ballard noted that toxicology reports will take time, but these are their conclusions to date.

- Ballard did not know if there were firearms in the house.

That ended the press conference, and it was noted that investigators were still at work in the Benoit house.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by virginiavenom
that would be like suing ford motor company for not testing their drivers for any illegal substances. not gonna happen...that's an upsurd thing to expect. there are ways around tests anyway....always has been, always will be. I liked benoit, but always knew he wasn't right in the head...someone look at his old pics and tell me you could look in his eyes and say he was a perfectly sane man. steroids are not anything uncommon in any aspect of sports in any country, or at any level. I've seen it from the lowest forms of sports to professional, it's not hard to believe as steroids are cheap, and their results as far as strength building are unsurpassed, however like many legal drugs they have their abusers and their side effects are alot like other drugs... steroids are used in medical purposes from the smallest arthritis case to high up to keep someone healthy from an unknown disease. it's a great drug, but has horrible side effects in some people. the kid I spoke of in my post above is still clean and has been very open and very against it's use....he was using it marginally, he was doing 1 "shorty" injection per week and it affected him in that way....I can only imagine when they use it in massive amounts, the shorty is a term they use for 1/2 the normal dose of it.
No actually its not. Their is no law that says ford motor company has to test their drivers before selling them a car. It is the law for the WWE to drug test their employees though. Just like any other work place. And like i said before, if the WWE knew he was taking steroids and didnt do anything about it then i would see them getting sued. Thats like a cop letting someone under the influence drive off. Someone else will get hurt. Im not saying thats what happened, but hey like you said yourself, most if not everyone in the WWE is on steroids.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Actually, it's not a law nor required for WWE to test their performers for steroids, it never has been. Testing their performers is something they did on a volunteer basis and they only became more stern about testing their performers in the wake of Eddie Guerrero's death. As the business of the WWE falls under entertainment and not sports, it's not looked at in the same vein of I don't know, let's say Major League Baseball, so there has never been any major pressure in getting WWE to regularly test their athletes for performance enhancing drugs. What's happening now (or should be happening if they held true to their word about their drug policy) is something they are doing on their own, not something required by the U.S. government but I can see that changing soon if the rations of deaths (around or before the age of 40) of professional wrestlers continues.

Also I don't buy the statement that everyone in the WWE are on steroids, that's a bogus statement to make...even if you aren't a wrestling fan.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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No actually its not. Their is no law that says ford motor company has to test their drivers before selling them a car. It is the law for the WWE to drug test their employees though. Just like any other work place.
WTH are you talking about? In which state?
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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I'm not saying they all are....but is it possible yes.

list of possibles I would believe
benoit.
hogan?
kane?
chyna?
ultimate warrior<---all of them
HHH?
I don't believe the rock was.
john cena is possible...but I think it to be unlikely.
randy macho man savage is definitly an old possible
psycho sid?


I mean there is alot that very well could be.....I'd like to believe none of them are, but I just don't think that's plausable....
I used to watch wrestling for several years almost every time it came on....however I have not since hart died, as he was one of my all time favorites. I miss hogan too, as I was an original hulkimaniac. I remember when he went from hulk, to hollywood, didn't like the move, but still loved to watch him wrestle. wrestling really is one of the best type of sports entertainment. it's not real, but it's extremely entertaining.

and no, there is no law, federal, state or otherwise requiring the wwe to do that. and as a matter of fact, I work for the federal government, and a drugtest is not only not required but isn't going to happen in my field.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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I never knew that. I always thought it was required for any work place to have mandatory drug tests. I guess i shouldeve done my research my bad guys. Thats really messed up though. I mean if they did drug test him, found out that he was taking steroids and got him help it couldeve saved him and his family.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Well that's the thing Chris, the WWE did have provisions in place to test their wrestlers for abuse of legal and illegal drugs. WWE has often stated since the death of Eddie Guerrero that they put in a wellness policy to test their athletes for the abuse of drugs (legal and illegal) as well as checking up on the cardiovascular heath of their wrestlers to ensure that they are truely healthy and that there are no hidden health issues with them. The WWE has further stated in the past that these test would be given by a 3rd party vendor and would punish those found to have tested positive for drug abuse and in their defense they seemed to (in my opinion partially) follow that decree. Back in 2002 (well before the policy was implemented) they fired Jeff Hardy as they felt he had a problem with the illegal use of drugs. They also released Kurt Angle when it came to light he wasn't of sound mind and refused to get the help he needed to nagging injuries and what they deemed longterm drug abuse, however Kurt Angle immediately signed with TNA as a result. Furthermore within their own company in the last year, they have fired Andrew "Test" Martin and Joey "Mercury" Matthews as a result of what I hear were failed drug tests. In addition they have suspended guys like Chris Masters who failed a drug test but and when he was brought back to television about 3 months later, he lost a lot of muscle mass. Now Masters is back to the way he looked before his suspension, if not bigger. WWE has also pulled Bobby Lashley and the Great Khali off of pay-per-views for what was have said to be elevated enzymes in the liver, now if this was related to steroids, I don't know as it was never stated...but to look at some of these guys, I can say yes they were/are steroids. Short list of that would be Rey Mysterio, Batista, Bobby Lashley (especially if you look at Lashley's pictures from when he was a wrestler in school, to the military and now), Chris Masters and there's plenty more. At one point, I would agree with the assessment Triple H was on the "juice" but if you saw his physique in recent years you will see he's not as chisled as he was in the past, a little more doughy than he is muscular now a days.

The WWE stated the last time Benoit was tested for drugs was on April 10 and that he tested negative for them. Now is that too far of a time period between testing, only the WWE can decide that. It's also been noted that Benoit's name came up on a list for a company that was illegally selling prescription drugs (steriods, HGH) over the Internet. If WWE were having these wrestlers tested and they were masking or cheating the results somehow, the WWE can't be blamed. They were doing their job and trying to look out for the safety of their wrestlers. There will always be a way to beat a drug test, I know this personally as I was friends for several years with a hippie/stoner chic who worked as a nurse in a hospital and just about every night she got stoned with her friends and always passed a drug/urine test becuase she knew what to take to mask any detection of drugs in her system. Maybe Benoit and other wrestlers are the same way.

I will say this however, if the WWE knew that Benoit was on steroids or abusing prescription drugs and did nothing to stop this, then I think they would and should have a lot to answer for. I think more will come out in this story as the weeks and months go on and if it comes to light WWE is (rightfully) to blame for part of this, I expect them to share in their responsibility as well...especially if they chose to ignore that Benoit was abusing drugs (like steroids) just so they could keep him on the road.

Oh and there's only been one person who played the Ultimate Warrior character, and his name is James Hellwig...but he legally goes by "Warrior" since having his name changed some time ago.
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