Youth + 500 HP + Stupidity = Tragedy
#21
I agree and my 16 year old son who turns 17 this month still has no drivers license due to grades.. Hes not failing but not up to par yet and I would never give him the keys to even my 300hp Mustang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#23
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Sorry, I'm 18, and this guy is an @ss. I'm not going to say that I've never made any bad driving decisions, because I have. Fortunately I have been lucky enough to never had problems from them. The fault also lies in the parents, for letting him use the car period, and for letting him drive after 4 tickets. I dont feel sorry for him, but I do feel sorry for the families, and it just irritates me that he took 4 others with him. Maybe this is a sign of Darwin's theory of natural selection...
There's much better places to test the limits of your car. Go to a drag strip. The one I go to is $10 to get in, $10 to run, the track is specifically for that, and there's paramedics, and it's all sanctioned. It's so safe.
There's much better places to test the limits of your car. Go to a drag strip. The one I go to is $10 to get in, $10 to run, the track is specifically for that, and there's paramedics, and it's all sanctioned. It's so safe.
#24
I think its probably a very good idea to give any hormone laden teenager both defensive and performance driving classes before setting them loose with any car, especially any car with more performance than an '88 Volvo DL wagon.
Standard drivers ed in the US is plainly pathetic. A defensive driving course would at least show the budding Mario Andretti that indeed both he/she, and the cars they drive, do have limits and then how to handle them at those limits.
A performance driving course would be even better as you just know they're going to drive fast anyways as soon as they're out of earshot of mommy and daddy, so at least have them do it well and perhaps a touch more responsibly.
While obviously not a panacea to teenage hooning, at least it would be better than just sending out the little immortals with little more than parental denial to shield them.
Standard drivers ed in the US is plainly pathetic. A defensive driving course would at least show the budding Mario Andretti that indeed both he/she, and the cars they drive, do have limits and then how to handle them at those limits.
A performance driving course would be even better as you just know they're going to drive fast anyways as soon as they're out of earshot of mommy and daddy, so at least have them do it well and perhaps a touch more responsibly.
While obviously not a panacea to teenage hooning, at least it would be better than just sending out the little immortals with little more than parental denial to shield them.
I dont have any kids of my own (nor do I plan to in the forseable future), but I wouldn't have a problem with spending a coupla thousand on some driving courses.
#25
Btw, did it say in the article or in the videos if the kid borrowed the car or swiped the keys, and IIRC on the M5 has a valet function where you can reduce the output of the engine by 200 or so HP.
#26
Good questions - I was going to ask the same thing about whether or not he had the parents' blessing to use the car. As for the valet function, I'm guessing he probably learned how to bypass it along with harnessing the full 500hp after hanging out on the M5 forums. If not, the results were still ugly.
#27
Even if the car had the Valet function on it, that doesn't mean Daddy knew anything about it, much less knew how to turn it on. The kid would have probably figured out how to turn it off anyway.
#28
The next day, she scoffed at the idea of spending "so much money".
#29
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Responsibility and wrecks don't exactly go hand in hand I don't think, though, but that is probably a debate for some other time.
I think its probably a very good idea to give any hormone laden teenager both defensive and performance driving classes before setting them loose with any car, especially any car with more performance than an '88 Volvo DL wagon.
A performance driving course would be even better as you just know they're going to drive fast anyways as soon as they're out of earshot of mommy and daddy, so at least have them do it well and perhaps a touch more responsibly.
A performance driving course would be even better as you just know they're going to drive fast anyways as soon as they're out of earshot of mommy and daddy, so at least have them do it well and perhaps a touch more responsibly.
Just because you "know" they are going to speed should be reason enough to keep the keys away.
#30
Defensive, yes. Performance? No. Why should we encourage the youth to feel comfortable driving fast? Leaving them scared by sharing things like this is what we need more of, not teaching them how to do it and saying to themselves "Well I took a course, so I can easily go 100mph in a 25 with all my best friends in the car..."
Just because you "know" they are going to speed should be reason enough to keep the keys away.
Just because you "know" they are going to speed should be reason enough to keep the keys away.
As for performance driving, ideally, they will gain a clear understanding of and proper respect for driving fast and all that entails, good and bad. Without such training and actual driving experience, those little immortals will have the typical grossly inflated view of their own driving prowess and faint understanding of their actual limitations and subsequent consequences.
Junior/little miss certainly aren't going to be so courteous as to announce that they're going to go out hooning, giving due notice to ****** away the keys and lock them in the basement until they turn 32 and suddenly mellow out.
#31
I've never been much of a fan of fear and ignorance, just look at politics and look where that's gotten us lately.
As for performance driving, ideally, they will gain a clear understanding of and proper respect for driving fast and all that entails, good and bad. Without such training and actual driving experience, those little immortals will have the typical grossly inflated view of their own driving prowess and faint understanding of their actual limitations and subsequent consequences.
Junior/little miss certainly aren't going to be so courteous as to announce that they're going to go out hooning, giving due notice to ****** away the keys and lock them in the basement until they turn 32 and suddenly mellow out.
As for performance driving, ideally, they will gain a clear understanding of and proper respect for driving fast and all that entails, good and bad. Without such training and actual driving experience, those little immortals will have the typical grossly inflated view of their own driving prowess and faint understanding of their actual limitations and subsequent consequences.
Junior/little miss certainly aren't going to be so courteous as to announce that they're going to go out hooning, giving due notice to ****** away the keys and lock them in the basement until they turn 32 and suddenly mellow out.
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