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Old 6/26/06 | 10:11 PM
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whenever chevy guys see my car...they always say...did you see the new camaro that they are coming out with next year

its supposed to have 500 horse

i say...i doubt it will be rated at what the vette is...and that is even if they make it...

that'll shut em up
Old 6/27/06 | 12:29 AM
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Kinda looks like they hired the same guys that design for Chrysler. No identity. Too bad.
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Old 7/1/06 | 02:04 PM
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I agree with everything he wrote and I believe that they'll be met with 60,000 first year unit sales if that. For the record, I believe the Chally will end up in the same boat.
Old 7/4/06 | 08:06 PM
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Personally I have always thought the concept looked like four different cars spliced together. I think this guy is right on with his description of it......

Old 7/5/06 | 09:07 AM
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I looked at a 1996 Camaro before I bought my 1998 Mustang. Same reaction: the seating position was WAY too low, and the visibility out of the rear window sucked. I sat down and thought, "Forget it."

The Challenger will sell well, but not with the same numbers as the Mustang. Like the Camaro, its appeal and target mark is relatively small, i.e. women probably won't buy it.
Old 7/5/06 | 12:42 PM
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I find it completely baffling that GM, on the ropes in the 9th round and struggling to stay afloat, would even consider such a project. The tooling costs for something like this are astronomical, and given their awful track record lately, it seems like the ultimate in ill-advised strategies. I guess if their stockholders will stand by and let it happen, they'll get what they deserve. In my opinion, GM should cut everything but trucks and SUVs and hope for divine intervention, since they seem to have no idea what their market is anymore. The one bright light I've seen in the last couple years is the Solstice, but with GM's recent track record, they'll probably pull the plug on that car before long. Seems like every time they start to get it right, they bail on the project......i.e. Fiero (finally turned it into a pretty nice little car after several years), Impala SS, etc. etc.
Old 7/5/06 | 02:08 PM
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I almost bought '97 Z28 back in 2001. It had really bad oil leak at only 13,000 miles. At the end I bought '00 Mustang V6.
Old 7/5/06 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushmaster
I find it completely baffling that GM, on the ropes in the 9th round and struggling to stay afloat, would even consider such a project. The tooling costs for something like this are astronomical, and given their awful track record lately, it seems like the ultimate in ill-advised strategies. I guess if their stockholders will stand by and let it happen, they'll get what they deserve. In my opinion, GM should cut everything but trucks and SUVs and hope for divine intervention, since they seem to have no idea what their market is anymore. The one bright light I've seen in the last couple years is the Solstice, but with GM's recent track record, they'll probably pull the plug on that car before long. Seems like every time they start to get it right, they bail on the project......i.e. Fiero (finally turned it into a pretty nice little car after several years), Impala SS, etc. etc.
Maybe Carlos Ghosn will turn it around by dropping VQ engines in the base Camaro, while the top model gets the LS7.

Old 7/5/06 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Burke0011
Personally I have always thought the concept looked like four different cars spliced together. I think this guy is right on with his description of it......

What do you mean 4 different cars
Old 7/5/06 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969 Mustang Mach 1
What do you mean 4 different cars
I mean four different concepts that they Frankensteined together..... to me, the design has no single look, or cohesion.....
Old 7/5/06 | 09:23 PM
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which ones
Old 7/6/06 | 05:27 AM
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I don't think he is referring to any cars in particular, just that the front end looks like it was designed for a different car than the back end etc.
Old 7/6/06 | 08:29 AM
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Let me see

Back-Corvette
Front-Challenger
Old 7/6/06 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969 Mustang Mach 1
which ones
Four different concept designs by four different designers......

What I am saying is the thing doesn't hang together as a whole for me.

You look at an S197 - it seems like a complete uniformed design.
You look at a Vette - same thing.

The Camaro concept - looks (to me) like it can't decide exactly what it wants to be.
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