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Old 2/5/12, 02:58 PM
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I didn't know Cobra Jet was street legal ...
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I for one do think a 2012 GT500 (not to mention the regular GT) will be a collectible in less than 20 years. Why? Because before then we'll all be driving 3 and 4 cylinder cars that weigh about half of our current vehicles. A 5.8 liter engine will be for something like a fire truck, not a passenger car. We'll have 1 liter engines in our daily drivers. 650 hp, are you kidding me. You'll be lucky to get 100 hp in the future. So yeah, I think they'll be collectible and far more collectible than the current crop of 60s and 70s muscle cars. Modern muscle cars get at least double the gas mileage, better brakes, better handling, safer, and they require less maintainance. It's not just the crappy economy that's the reason for 60s muscle car price collapse. The modern car is just better and costs a lot less.
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My numbers are for a 2013 GT500 (5.8 liter, 650 hp) when I should have cited the 2012 GT500 (5.4 liter, 550 hp). My mistake, but you get the point.
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Originally Posted by exchallenger
Because before then we'll all be driving 3 and 4 cylinder cars that weigh about half of our current vehicles. A 5.8 liter engine will be for something like a fire truck, not a passenger car. We'll have 1 liter engines in our daily drivers. 650 hp, are you kidding me. You'll be lucky to get 100 hp in the future.
You do realize they said that 20 years ago too, right?

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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance
I didn't know Cobra Jet was street legal ...
They're not street legal. 8.5 second factory racer.
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I for one do think a 2012 GT500 (not to mention the regular GT) will be a collectible in less than 20 years. Why? Because before then we'll all be driving 3 and 4 cylinder cars that weigh about half of our current vehicles. A 5.8 liter engine will be for something like a fire truck, not a passenger car. We'll have 1 liter engines in our daily drivers. 650 hp, are you kidding me. You'll be lucky to get 100 hp in the future. So yeah, I think they'll be collectible and far more collectible than the current crop of 60s and 70s muscle cars. Modern muscle cars get at least double the gas mileage, better brakes, better handling, safer, and they require less maintainance. It's not just the crappy economy that's the reason for 60s muscle car price collapse. The modern car is just better and costs a lot less.
You speak like this is the end. The horsepower war is hopefully far from over. I fully expect an 800hp factory mustang in the future.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
They're not street legal. 8.5 second factory racer.
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Cobra Jets don't get a VIN, I believe.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
They're not street legal. 8.5 second factory racer.
From your previous comment I thought that you saw the owner driving this car down the coast ... My bad.

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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500

Cobra Jets don't get a VIN, I believe.
Not a normal vin but it has a vin. Needs one to be titled. But it also has a special title.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance

From your previous comment I understood that you saw the owned driving this car down the coast ... My bad.
No but there were a lot of illegal rat rods running up and down the coast. It doesn't really matter for the show weekend.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

Not a normal vin but it has a vin. Needs one to be titled. But it also has a special title.
Got it
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Is this the only site on the internet where people don't believe that CAFE standards will be implemented? Do you think the US government is just kidding about all this fuel economy bs? Get a grip. The new standards are coming. This is a freight train headed our way and there is no way to stop it.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

I don't understand the point here.
Supply and demand as stated before there is more to it than just numbers but ultimately it comes down to more people wanting it than there are cars.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance
From your previous comment I thought that you saw the owner driving this car down the coast ... My bad.

If I had one, I can guarantee you it would see street time. I wouldn't hesitate to slap a drive out tag on it and take it out to cruise ins, car shows, or just a few blasts to the local store.
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown

If I had one, I can guarantee you it would see street time. I wouldn't hesitate to slap a drive out tag on it and take it out to cruise ins, car shows, or just a few blasts to the local store.
BALLER!
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs

BALLER!
lol.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
BALLER!
Takes one to know one.
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So you've been a baller all this time. I feel duped
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Where's the demand come from? Gotta make people want one. Gotta be something special or at least have people think its special.
This, and I think accessibility is another factor, even if the car is in limited supply (with a few exceptions like the Ford GT for example) but is accessible to the public at large it becomes more of a collectible.

The first gen GT500 is a good example of how the crap all over the future collectible status of a car. High ADMs and the people who bought them, snapped them all up as garage queens hoping a few years down the road that they could make a buck or two. What a perfectly good way to make a car irrelavent.

Fords continual improvement of the GT500 hasn't helped as well, but on the bright side, the car's diminishing value as an instant collectible is a good thing as it gets those cars out of the hands of speculators and on the street where people can enjoy, use and abuse them letting the car build a rep (attrition is also a good way to pump up the value of a car).
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I agree with your last statement. Accessibility is only about money nowadays. The Boss or GT500 is very accessible to the people who can afford them. Just order one. If the supply was truly limited, it would be a different story.
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