Lutz full of Crap, tries to scare Customers over CAFE standards
Lutz full of Crap, tries to scare Customers over CAFE standards
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/10/l...icles-on-hold/
This guy could work at the White House with tactics like that.
This guy could work at the White House with tactics like that.
Wow thanks... i hadn't realized until i saw this thread that, while I think Mullaly's a smart guy, Lutz seems like a ... p... putz. Sorry... had too.
My love for Ford is obviously cause I grew up in the back seat of one. But I think if it had been somebody like Lutz at the wheel instead of Bill Ford and now Mullaly, I woulda forgotten about the company a long time ago. While maybe Bill Ford wasn't the perfect CEO in terms of pushing the company back up to the top, at least I liked him as a person and I appreciated the values he instilled in the company. And now Mullaly seems like the best of both worlds, as far as I can tell. At least he's got some engineering experience, unlike Lutz.
My love for Ford is obviously cause I grew up in the back seat of one. But I think if it had been somebody like Lutz at the wheel instead of Bill Ford and now Mullaly, I woulda forgotten about the company a long time ago. While maybe Bill Ford wasn't the perfect CEO in terms of pushing the company back up to the top, at least I liked him as a person and I appreciated the values he instilled in the company. And now Mullaly seems like the best of both worlds, as far as I can tell. At least he's got some engineering experience, unlike Lutz.
My love for Ford is obviously cause I grew up in the back seat of one. But I think if it had been somebody like Lutz at the wheel instead of Bill Ford and now Mullaly, I woulda forgotten about the company a long time ago. While maybe Bill Ford wasn't the perfect CEO in terms of pushing the company back up to the top, at least I liked him as a person and I appreciated the values he instilled in the company. And now Mullaly seems like the best of both worlds, as far as I can tell. At least he's got some engineering experience, unlike Lutz.
On second thought, after actually skimming through the article, I believe projects like the G8 will ALL be put on hold. It's pretty obvious that if this Camaro revival wasn't so far in, he'd have pulled the plug. Gee, I wonder how many years they'll make that car? 2? 3?
Alas, I'm sure the good ol Mustang will still be going once the Camaro is shot for a SECOND time. WOW, they are fast, so fast in fact they go in and out of production at the speed of light.
So much for GM making a serious comeback.
Alas, I'm sure the good ol Mustang will still be going once the Camaro is shot for a SECOND time. WOW, they are fast, so fast in fact they go in and out of production at the speed of light.
So much for GM making a serious comeback.
"if we legislate CO2 from cars, why not legislate we take one less breath per minute since human release capricious amounts of CO2?"
Fool. He can't even get his science right. Cars emit carbon monoxide, a green house gas, and people exhale carbon dioxide.
This is gonna hurt GM where it lives right now.
Fool. He can't even get his science right. Cars emit carbon monoxide, a green house gas, and people exhale carbon dioxide.
This is gonna hurt GM where it lives right now.
I guess I'm not really sure what you are saying here...
No...you're right, I didn't articulate myself properly - I meant human emissions are negligible by comparison.
Cars and humans both exhale carbon dioxide. Cars produce a little bit of Carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide, if inhaled, will bond with your blood cells in a way that prevents you from getting oxygen into your blood stream, and can kill you. Carbon monoxide has what you'd call an acute effect, like it'll kill you if your house fills up with it. But it doesn't build up, and once it's released into the atmosphere, it'll eventually pick up an extra oxygen atom and turn into CO2.
I think Lutz was saying that, while CO and NOx and all that stuff are undesired byproducts of combustion, a perfectly functioning engine will produce a bunch of CO2, its just the natural reaction that's supposed to happen in the engine. So i think he was trying to promote that "natural" aspect to it, as though that's supposed to make it okay.
The point remains that producing CO2 like that is not cool when its done on such a huge scale. There's a natural carbon cycle on this planet, animals breathing, volcanoes erupting, plants sucking it all back in... But you can't just say... "humans exhale it! why can't we build a billion cars that spew the stuff out at a hundred times the rate? Its a natural gas!"
I think Lutz was saying that, while CO and NOx and all that stuff are undesired byproducts of combustion, a perfectly functioning engine will produce a bunch of CO2, its just the natural reaction that's supposed to happen in the engine. So i think he was trying to promote that "natural" aspect to it, as though that's supposed to make it okay.
The point remains that producing CO2 like that is not cool when its done on such a huge scale. There's a natural carbon cycle on this planet, animals breathing, volcanoes erupting, plants sucking it all back in... But you can't just say... "humans exhale it! why can't we build a billion cars that spew the stuff out at a hundred times the rate? Its a natural gas!"
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