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when are people going to learn? you cannot have it both ways. It cannot be fun and priusie. They have had something on the market that rev to 18k rpm and get +60 mpg for years and years now and its called a crotch rocket.
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Here's the future of your electric car with its need for rare minerals:
China – Japan strife spotlights a strategic U.S. vulnerability
By Ed Flanagan, NBC News
BEIJING – The recent political standoff between China and Japan thrust so-called rare earth minerals – critical to the manufacture of 21st century technology like cell phones and digital cameras to high-tech weaponry – into the limelight as a national security concern for the United States.
Stemming from a dispute over a Chinese fishing boat captain held by Japan, China, which controls 97 percent of processing of the world’s rare earth minerals, reportedly blocked their export to Japan.
The claim was quickly denied by Beijing, but the mere suggestion that China was willing or capable of such an embargo sent shockwaves through U.S. businesses, economic planners and Pentagon strategists.
That’s because a similar embargo against the United States could seriously threaten America’s ability to source elements used in the manufacture of everything from hybrid car engines to the precision laser-guided smart bombs used by the military.
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-vulnerability
By Ed Flanagan, NBC News
BEIJING – The recent political standoff between China and Japan thrust so-called rare earth minerals – critical to the manufacture of 21st century technology like cell phones and digital cameras to high-tech weaponry – into the limelight as a national security concern for the United States.
Stemming from a dispute over a Chinese fishing boat captain held by Japan, China, which controls 97 percent of processing of the world’s rare earth minerals, reportedly blocked their export to Japan.
The claim was quickly denied by Beijing, but the mere suggestion that China was willing or capable of such an embargo sent shockwaves through U.S. businesses, economic planners and Pentagon strategists.
That’s because a similar embargo against the United States could seriously threaten America’s ability to source elements used in the manufacture of everything from hybrid car engines to the precision laser-guided smart bombs used by the military.
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-vulnerability
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http://www.americaspower.org/The-Facts/
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Uh, oh, isn't that the knock against oil -- that it's running out; that we're too dependent on foreign nations? Also, when your plug-in hybrid is taxing our electrical grids even further, and power companies have to burn more coal (half of America's power comes from coal) to charge car batteries on top of powering everything else, all you're doing is displacing the source of emission from the automobile tailpipe to the power plant's smoke stack.
http://www.americaspower.org/The-Facts/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car#http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electri...xide_emissionsCarbon_dioxide_emissions
Best I could come up with. Obviously, a renewable source would lower the emissions dramatically, and emissions depends on the coal used, but it can be lower than an ICE car even with coal.
A solar-powered carport, like this, would be awesome, though.
Best I could come up with. Obviously, a renewable source would lower the emissions dramatically, and emissions depends on the coal used, but it can be lower than an ICE car even with coal.
A solar-powered carport, like this, would be awesome, though.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car#http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electri...xide_emissionsCarbon_dioxide_emissions
Best I could come up with. Obviously, a renewable source would lower the emissions dramatically, and emissions depends on the coal used, but it can be lower than an ICE car even with coal.
A solar-powered carport, like this, would be awesome, though.
Best I could come up with. Obviously, a renewable source would lower the emissions dramatically, and emissions depends on the coal used, but it can be lower than an ICE car even with coal.
A solar-powered carport, like this, would be awesome, though.
http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Environment/EnvironmentalHealthRT/WangGREETPresentationtoInstituteofMedicine1107REVI SED.ashx
There's more to pollution than just CO2 emissions, too. Please check out slides 23 through 27 in the presentation above. It doesn't look all good for EV's. Wheel-to-wheel, EV's emit much higher PM and SOx, slightly more NOx than their ICE counterparts. Ironically, PM and NOx emissions are why diesels are attacked in the U.S. by CARB, et al.
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Alex, thanks for citing your sources. Of course, I have a problem or two with the information contained within the above link. I find it funny how the author factors in not only the tailpipe CO2 emissions from an ICE engine, but also figured in is the production and transportation of the fuel. It doesn't appear the same has been done for the electric vehicles: factor in the effects of coal mining, the transportation of coal, etc.; factor in the mining of the rare earth minerals and the transportation of them, too, and I wonder what the numbers look like.
http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Environment/EnvironmentalHealthRT/WangGREETPresentationtoInstituteofMedicine1107REVI SED.ashx
There's more to pollution than just CO2 emissions, too. Please check out slides 23 through 27 in the presentation above. It doesn't look all good for EV's. Wheel-to-wheel, EV's emit much higher PM and SOx, slightly more NOx than their ICE counterparts. Ironically, PM and NOx emissions are why diesels are attacked in the U.S. by CARB, et al.
http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Environment/EnvironmentalHealthRT/WangGREETPresentationtoInstituteofMedicine1107REVI SED.ashx
There's more to pollution than just CO2 emissions, too. Please check out slides 23 through 27 in the presentation above. It doesn't look all good for EV's. Wheel-to-wheel, EV's emit much higher PM and SOx, slightly more NOx than their ICE counterparts. Ironically, PM and NOx emissions are why diesels are attacked in the U.S. by CARB, et al.
And don't forget expired batteries in landfills - usually in out of sight-out of mind rural areas... and their detrimental effect on our precious ground water resources.
I think they are expending lots of money and energy for a less than half arsed solution. We can do better and leap frog the entire chapter of this "imitation new tech".
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And don't forget expired batteries in landfills - usually in out of sight-out of mind rural areas... and their detrimental effect on our precious ground water resources.
I think they are expending lots of money and energy for a less than half arsed solution. We can do better and leap frog the entire chapter of this "imitation new tech".
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