December 2010 Camaro Sales Production Figures Ends Mustang’s 23 Year Sales Reign
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Search kach22i, if his posts still exist. The 2005 Mustang wasn't exactly praised by everyone for its beauty when it was first released (it was too plain; it needed scoops; it looked nowhere near as aggressive as the outgoing 2004; what did they do to the front end?). I remember seeing debates like these with him, all those years ago. That was several years ago, though. The 2010's unveiling was just a couple of years ago, so the griping -- which typically comes any time a new model is released -- is still fresh in some peoples' minds.
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Only in the context of the Camaro winning 2010. I could have chosen a better word.
Well that's my point. Almost everyone is cautious financially now so that's an equal. But when one is inspired by an upgrade of their fav vehicle, they find a way to buy it. The diaper was not the inspiration somebody at Ford thought it would be.
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Search kach22i, if his posts still exist. The 2005 Mustang wasn't exactly praised by everyone for its beauty when it was first released (it was too plain; it needed scoops; it looked nowhere near as aggressive as the outgoing 2004; what did they do to the front end?). I remember seeing debates like these with him, all those years ago. That was several years ago, though. The 2010's unveiling was just a couple of years ago, so the griping -- which typically comes any time a new model is released -- is still fresh in some peoples' minds.
And then there's this:
Each body style Mustang has been an icon for the generation of car geeks who grew up with it (except the sn95 body – you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone who would consider than an icon of the mid 90’s)...
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Seriously they're about as common as Mustangs of various models and years around here. 2010+ Mustangs I see occasionally. 5.0s I've seen... two.One of them I see all the time.
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The 2005 Mustang was the must-have, new car at one time. Unfortunately, to most, IMO, the 2010's redesign didn't go far enough, especially when compared to the outgoing model, to elicit the kind of sales the competition-less 2005-09 Mustang enjoyed (well, sales began plummeting in 2008, even before the 2010 refresh's unveiling). Yeah, you and some others are, to this day, hung up on the "diaper," but I really don't think that has anything to do with why the all-new Camaro beat out the "I didn't go far enough with my design" 2010-11 Mustang. Perhaps if the new Camaro were selling as well as the 2005-07 Mustang, 150K+ units per year, you'd be onto something, IMO, but it's not.
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I remember the complaints. "Aerodynamics of a brick" and "slower than a Terminator" probably sums up most of them. The New Edge styling was initially panned, the SN-95s are still maligned...fact is, if you poll 100 different people by asking them what is the most beautiful car of all-time and you'll probably get 100 different answers. It's all subjective. Toyotas are some of the ugliest creations expressed into metal, glass and rubber and they still sell hundreds of thousands of them every year.
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I think it just boiled down to which one had the least amount of poop in it's diaper 
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The 2005 Mustang was the must-have, new car at one time. Unfortunately, to most, IMO, the 2010's redesign didn't go far enough, especially when compared to the outgoing model, to elicit the kind of sales the competition-less 2005-09 Mustang enjoyed (well, sales began plummeting in 2008, even before the 2010 refresh's unveiling). Yeah, you and some others are, to this day, hung up on the "diaper," but I really don't think that has anything to do with why the all-new Camaro beat out the "I didn't go far enough with my design" 2010-11 Mustang. Perhaps if the new Camaro were selling as well as the 2005-07 Mustang, 150K+ units per year, you'd be onto something, IMO, but it's not.
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Ha ha. Yeah, but if that were the case, the Dodge Challenger, arguably the sexier (albeit porkier) of the three American musclecars, would be the sales leader. It's not as if the Camaro's rear end is anything to write home about. Like I said, it's all about the hype and fanfare.
Congratulations to Chevy.
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Hey, I was just representing my "S197 Retro Constituents"..... 
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GM won the 2010 Camaro/Mustang battle, but it is losing the war: http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/kausfi...half-bull.html
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Ford tops GM in Canadian auto sales for first time in over 50 years
