Happy to be of service. And while TomTom might be here all week because he has nothing better to do, I, on the other hand, have bigger fish to fry (and I don't mean red herrings, either, Tom ).

Besides, I clearly won this round.

Adios...

 

That's the best you can do? Take a cheap shot at my typing skills? Like I said before, no challenge whatsoever!

You're slowing down BC. It took you over 13 minutes of searching to find that new word. Of course, I'm sure a good bit of that time was spent trying to comprehend the definition.

BTW, just because you Google up impressive words doesn't prove your conclusions aren't fallacious. It only obscures the fact that you don't have leg to stand on.

 

Sorry, but you didn't even place second in this round!

 

Why should anyone care how old a design is if it works well? Some people are entirely too obsessed with a single design aspect...
In your opinion, and you've been wrong before.

I can attest from my real-world experience (I'm not just regurgitating what I read in a magazine or read on someone's "blog"), Oversteer is entirely possible;the S197 handles like Car & Driver article that I quoted had stated:enter a tight turn fast and its initially neutral, then starts to plow (understeer). Give it some throttle, & the tail starts to swing out (oversteer). It's exciting but controllable, even for a driver of average skills like me.
So just because it performs well and they like the car they're biased? Could it be possible that the car is just plain good??!?

 

Just like in another thread, he claimed that Volkswagen didn't allow their dealers to add markup over MSRP yet I found multiple instances where buyers were paying ADMs.

 

and more times than that

 

It is obvious to anybody who hasn't been overeducated and therefore mentally damanged that the live axle is superior to the IRS. For example NASCAR, Drag Racing and various other racing styles. The IRS only provides a smother ride if properly designed and set up you bunch of over educated pendantic morons.

 

Yes, IRS generally offers a refinement in ride over its SRA counterpart in the realm commonly reffered to as "real world", but doesn't offer the stellar improvements over an SRA that its adherants claim in actual performance.

As for me, I'll take it for what it is, and the sort of character it gives the mustang which is great in the automotive world where almost everything is nothing more than the same ingredients wrapped in a different wrapper.

 

However, he's very stupid when it comes to determining which is a V6 and a GT. How hard is that
V6


GT

 

I love how the S-197 GT uses a live-axle rear suspension. It's how it is supposed to be made. (IMHO of course)

They (magazines) can keep their IRS.

 

I really like everything that I've read so far on the Camaro. As far as the cost concern, IMO- few will be able to afford the Camaro in its first few years of production due to its popularity and dealer surcharges. I'm an avid Ford fan- always have been, but the reality of the match-up will be the Camaro blowing the doors off the Mustang. Like most always, it'll take some SE Mustang to compete with the base Camaro. Ford will tweak the Stang here and there, but with their current financial problems, I don't see them totally revamping the 4.6 for a while regardless of what I've read. I feel that the new 5.0 is a pipe dream. The horse will be a dog once more, and that makes me sad .

 

Yeah, along with every other manufacturer in the world.

 

But it wouldn't hurt the GT to have an IRS. Would it?

 

 

Well, disregarding your defense of the virtues of of ignorance and lack of education (boy, wouldn't American be really great if we all just stopped at the sixth grade and not get our fool heads all full of knowledge), NASCAR doesn't allow IRS; drag racing is a test of engines and trannies, certainly not suspensions, and most racing that does test handling performance uses highly sophisticated IRS systems wherever possible and allowed. Formula I, probably some of the most competitive and highest level racing in the world, will spend tens of millions of dollars refining their IRS suspension systems. But then, they probably have advanced engineering degrees and thus, don't know what they're doing...

That IRS only offers a smooth ride is a tired red-herring of an argument -- though it can offer a significantly better ride for a given level of handling than a live axle and far better handling over rough, irregular pavement than any live axle.

But there I go again, like, uh, using my brain and stuff...

 

Yup, there ya go bein' pedantic again. Cut it out, will ya, it's making my brain hurt.