chris8519

Oh yeah, one more thing:
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MilStang

You and I joke about it....but it is probably true.

htwag

The 'new' Challenger looks so much like the last one I wanted, it's not funny. I think the interior needs some work. The Camaro needs some attention. GM's inability to bring the new Camaro to market before 2009 is just another indicator of how screwed up the US auto makers are. The UAW needs to get real and so do the execs that draw hugh salaries. Ford and GM sell well in other places like Europe and Asia. Bring the European Focus here - but that might cut into Ford 500 sales. Can't figure out the selling power of Toyota - their cars are not inspired - and not that much of a bargin.

Rampant

Please grow up. GM's demise is not something to promote or even joke about. It would not only all of their 325,000 employees and their families, but in the end -- ALL OF US. Like it or not, they have a large impact on our economy -- and that means your, and my, way of life.

That being said, something DRASTIC has to happen to turn it around, and the Camaro certianly isn't going to be it.

The sad news is Ford isn't too far behind. Not only does it look like they will loose their #2 spot to DCX, they are expected to announce plant closings and job cuts as well. Should we all start chanting "Death to Ford?"

Didn't think so.

Rampant

Considering Chevy is the best-selling brand in America, that couldn't be further from the truth. Let's also remember Cadillac is selling better than it has since 1990. And Hummer has almost doubled this year (up 93%).

The problem with GM is not so much sales volume, but rather profit. Big difference.

chris8519

Ah- I am excluding Cadillac and Corvette. These two take chances. They are cutting edge.
But Cadillac is selling better than it has since 1990? How can one boast about that? That means they released nothing worth while for FIFTEEN YEARS.
Hummer makes 3 models. You sell 200 units 1 year, and 400 the next- you're up 100%! Numbers can be deceiving.

And realistically, I truly dont see GM going away- But I do see Buick and Pontiac. They saturate their own market way too much! Cut the fat. Even if that means laying off workers- that's buisiness. Keeping companies around just to keep the workers working is not profitable. Sad, but fiscally true. And consider this- GM cuts the fat. Lays off many workers. But, in doing so, restores many people's faith in GM. The cars are inspired again- people buy them. This returns their profits to what it was before- maybe even higher. More employees could be hired again. Everyone wins- including the car buying public. Strengthening through fire!

I call not for the demise of a Company, but the demise of Bad Buisness Sense.


And, true, Death to GM is harsh. So lets say:

Death to the current Management and Mindset that GM has right now!

(but that just doesn't look good in a logo!)

Fordracing200

My honest opinion- Its ugly and it looks like a flippin saturn... I'd rather Ford compete with dodge (challenger) then chevy just because the dodge guys are a better crowd imo.

Rampant- Don't worry about jokes, dont take them seriously, its just a form of entertainment, although we do indeed understand your point