GirchyGirchy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rebel73 @ February 23, 2006, 8:01 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Just a question, bro', but whatcha doin' buying a Nissan and hanging out on a Mustang site?
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I dunno, something to do I guess (which sounds really sad). A buddy I worked with during Christmas break from college two winters ago, F1Cobra, introduced the site to me...it was one of the few forums that wasn't blocked, I guess because there's no mention of a car in the web address. I've always been a car lover and liked the new Mustang (he has an '05 himself), so I just started hangin' around.

I thought about the 'Stang, but I was looking for something more economical and larger. Maybe in a few years, after I get a house and get the Altima paid off, I'll buy one as a second car. I've ridden in a few and could see myself owning one, no problem. Plus I get X-Plan from work. But for my only car, I just wanted something comfortable, affordable, and practical that I liked, and the Altima fit the bill.

Basically I'm just a wannabe Mustang owner who's a general car nut, Ford fan, and interested and still excited about the 'new' Mustang, and who also enjoys perusing the site. There are some nice people and nicer cars on here, and I just hang around for fun. I hope you all don't mind the intrusion! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]

hi5.0

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rebel73 @ February 23, 2006, 3:01 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Just a question, bro', but whatcha doin' buying a Nissan and hanging out on a Mustang site?
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Don't want to start something but some other people here don't have Mustangs or have/like other cars as well. Just being interested in and liking the Mustang should be reason enough. I prefer Fords/Mustangs but also like awesome high performance vehicles from other manufacturers regardless of engine cyl. count/displacement. Guess I'm just a performance sl_t! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]
I'd like to see a (twin) turbo version of the new 3.5 v6 in a Mustang even though the SVO was less than successful.

Boomer

You want... torque...
You WANT... TORQUE...
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Make you want to go out and buy one yet? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

GirchyGirchy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Boomer @ February 23, 2006, 9:07 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Make you want to go out and buy one yet? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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AHHHHH stop it stop it stop it! I hate you!

Hmmm...one thing I could do is keep the Caprice and turn it into a sleeper...switch out cams, intake, and carb...hmmmm............

ManEHawke

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Louie @ February 23, 2006, 1:48 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'm by no means a motoring expert, but isn't 360:8=45? Not that this contradicts your point, on the contrary.
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A piston only fires once of the 4 strokes, meaning once every two crank revolutions. A V8 will have fired all eight of it's cylinders in only two crank revolutions.

outdoorsman

no joke wait till next year

azoufan

Buick Grand National. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif[/img]

No way I would even think about a go against one of those and they have 6 cylinders. For me it was about horsepower. If there is an option that gives you a more powerful engine, then that's the one I buy. Twin turbo 3 cylinder Mustang making 425 HP? Sign me up. Fuel economy? Bite me, go buy a Civic.

mobster

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ford4v429 @ February 21, 2006, 10:52 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'd rather have 225-250 hp and 400+ ft/lb down low- its more fun, MOST of the time.
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225-250 hp and 400+ ft/lb... I'm thinking diesel... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]

Think about it, put a v6 diesel in the mustang, you would get decent fuel economy, tons of low end torque, and it would probability double the towing capacity... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]

StangFan

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(poldrv @ February 23, 2006, 7:08 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Eleanorsmine - Nope, the discussion if we want to call it that always turns out the same. It is interesting to note that not many V6 owners bash the GT. Ford has created two mustangs as such you would think that people would realize that there is a group that will go gaga over the V6 and another that will go super gaga over the V8. To each there own.

As for the those that think that Ford should only have created a V8 mustang for 2005 perhaps those comments should be directed to Bill Ford. I wonder what Bill's reply will be considering 70& of the mustang market is the V6. I really don't think the choice to get a V6 over the V8 has nothing to do with cost either....it is though a little something called personal choice.
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i dont understand some v6 owners. where exactly was this "v6 bashing"? the closest thing ive seen is when surfn said that although you could get the sound close v6's dont sound as good as a gt and that they werent true muscle cars. this isnt v6 bashing...its fact. at least the muscle car part anyway. honestly, ive said it before ill say it again...you wanna see v6 bashing go check out ANY other mustang forum. i visit another one and they call v6s ricers, imitations, fake mustangs etc etc etc. and if you reported them to the mods they would just laugh because the mods say the same thing. and you guys complain because someone just says that a v6 isnt a real muscle car? guess what...its not. but that doesnt mean it isnt an awesome car anyway.

v6 owners can post all day about "oh who needs all that power, theres no use for it" "i get much better gas mileage" "the v6 is really the more practical choice and it makes more sense" but the second a gt owner touts the benefits of a gt over a v6 its v6 bashing.

you v6 owners have no idea how good you have it here. but when it comes down to it i think the trouble comes from the fact that many think the v6 and gt are equal. theyre not. it would be like someone on the bmw forums claiming his new 3 series is equal to the new 7 series. now sure, the 3 is a great car just like the v6 mustang but its not on the level of the 7 series or gt.

uh oh...that was probably "bashing" the v6 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

SurfnSoCal

Exactly. V6 mustangs are great grocery getters, commuter cars, etc. But in no way are they muscle cars. Sure, slap a blower on a v6 and you can be at the same power level that my car was at the day I drove it off the lot. Be my guest!

But coming from someone who has owned 2 V6 mustangs....they aren't muslce cars. Drive your V6 and enjoy it....heck...even mod it (imo its a waste of money too...and again, I have had 2 V6's). But don't claim its a muscle car...or even that it sounds like one.

You are no better than a honda owner who claims their V6 accord is "asian muscle".

Galaxie

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I think the new 3.5L 24V motor could have some good HP potential, especially if it was punched out to 4.0L

Although I suspect the engine bay is too short for it, australia has a really stout inline 6 motor from what I remember, how would that be for another alternative? I6's are smooth and bulletproof

dapmustang

Yes, [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/topic.gif[/img]

We might have lost a little of my original intent of the question/discussion/debate. One of the concepts I wanted to pursue is what if a high-tech V6 became the new V8?

I see by many responses that there would be a backlash against Ford trying to convince us a “new, high-output V6” was the new V8. I guess I don’t see Ford doing away with the V8. (Of course, didn’t they play with the idea of making the Mustang FWD or AWD?) It seems in order to be true to the Mustang and muscle car heritage, there will always be a V8. I think the “new V8” is the lower displacement V8 as opposed to the 429CID we’ve seen in the past.

It’s not that it would be a V6, as if it’s the V6 that’s the problem, it’s what it would not be … it just wouldn’t be a V8.

StangFan

yeah on topic...

its hard for me to say. im sure ford could make a really great v6 that would seem like a v8...but to me it really wouldnt be the same. to me it would kind of be like saying "well what if ford made the mustang front wheel drive...but it would still handle like rear wheel drive!". to me mustangs are rear wheel drive...with a v8 under the hood.

EleanorsMine

All I can say is the v6 is a fun cruising car, Its a fun shopping car, Its a fun girl car. Thats about it. She's like a cute little sister.

Enfynet

Well if the V6 is anything like the 5.9L I6 that Dodge is putting out... Well I'd still take the 8. But a 6 like that would be sweet [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrinjester.gif[/img]

This might fit the comment April made a couple posts ago...

Sarah (V6 Vert): Lmfao i know my car's one sexy b****! ;-)
Justin (GT Coupe): especially when you drop her top and shine her up real good ;-)
Sarah: Dude. Is ur car hitting on my baby? Hehehe
Justin: haha
Justin: i dunno... what would their kids look like? :-P
Sarah: Hmm lil baby stangs hehe 4 cylinders maybe
Justin: Mustang II's????? :-P leave the 70s in the 70s

Cavero

I would still go for the V8 for a couple reasons. 1: It sounds better, generally feels better. 2: The gas milage is almost exactly the same in the mustang (25hwy V8 vs 28hwy V6). 3: Reliability. The more HP you squeeze out of a small motor, the more strain you put on the mechanicals of the motor, the more reliability issues it's going to have. A V6 is going to need a higher compression ratio than the V8 to achieve the same power, and I just don't think a HO V6 could be as reliable as the V8. Not saying the V6's aren't reliable though. But one problem GM had with their 3.4L V6 of the mid 90's was that they were squeezing 200HP out of it and the motor couldn't handle it. The thing is notorious for problems. That's one reason why GM moved up to the 3.8L for its performance V6's, from what I've heard. 4th reason, the V8's are easier to modify. I've heard the argument going around you don't need 300HP on a daily basis (I'd agree), but lets face it. Some people DO modify their cars for competition. And, in further response to that argument, the more power you have, the better the car responds in low and mid range driving, and the less you have to exert the engine to get it to move. Almost the same concept with stereos. Why have a 500W system? You'll go deaf if you actually turn it up to the full 500W, but the higher the output, generally the better it sounds (performs) in normal operating ranges. In my V6 chevy, I have to punch it to pass someone or just get in front of traffic. As a result, the car that should be getting 25mpg combined city/highway is getting 19. Hmm...sounds a little like the the V8 mustang milage. And the V8 wouldn't have to use nearly as much effort, so less wear on the engine. I went through this debate in my head when I ordered my stang, went with the V8.

EleanorsMine

WTH am I doing wrong with my car then? 28 MPG? It takes me a friggin 1/4 tank just to go to the mall 17 miles from here and back. Gas mileage was the last thing I worry about.

ford4v429

I still think for just a everyday car, HP numbers are about worthless...its the low RPM torque that you will feel at every intersection...where we actually drive our cars just stopping/going, they often wont put out more than like 50 hp.

(Torque * RPM)/5252= hp

I'm *guessing* at WOT, 2500 rpm(about where I 'normally' shift) the 6 puts out about 200 lb/ft, the v8 about 250...so the v8 is only about 120 hp wide open at cruise rpm, driving normally(say 20% throttle) around town, youre talking 25 hp? as the numbers get smaller, the torque down low gains importance...if the 6 and 8 were both 300hp, they might run similar 1/4 mile times(power is power), but in everyday feel , I think the 8 would feel twice as powerful- especially as mods can more easily tend to only increase power at higher rpm. Putting a roots style blower on a 6 will make it feel bigger, but at the cost of stressing the engine pretty hard.
If I had my way, and had to choose between two 300 hp engines, Id rather have a 450 lb/ft motor with a 3.5k redline, than a 320 ft/lb and 6k redline(stock v8 numbers work out to like 275 ft/lb @5750 I think)...although both rated at around 300 hp. the lower rpm torque monster would feel like a bigblock in 99% of driving, and I really miss that.
It would suck at a racetrack, be be more fun everywhere else without getting into illegal speeds required to get into the stock horsepower peak.

Cavero

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(EleanorsMine @ February 25, 2006, 3:01 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
WTH am I doing wrong with my car then? 28 MPG? It takes me a friggin 1/4 tank just to go to the mall 17 miles from here and back. Gas mileage was the last thing I worry about.
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That's the V6 with a std transmission vs the V8 with the std, highway milage, under the overly optimistic EPA testing guidelines...basically driving it like it's an Escort. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/04.gif[/img]

245/45ZR-17

Muscle car/Pony car=V8, other engine options have, & always be available, but the Muscle car DNA is all about having big 8 holes under the hood, and the signature sound that comes with it.

V6's don't sound very good at all...IMO, they sound horrible. The only V6 I've ever heard that makes a decent sound at WOT is the VQ35DE in the 350 Z, & G35 twins.

If the Mustang suddenly lost the V8 altogether, I would start shopping elsewhere, or for an old 5.0.