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11/16/04, 12:38 PM
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having last minute doubts before putting my V6, premium, black, IUP, SAP order in. mainly wondering if v6 might be too lame..
does anyone know of anyone who has or will put a supercharger on their 6 ? im very curious how many extra ponies that would result in and which one would be best???
Ive modded mustangs for a long time, but think supercharging a daily driver V6 would be a clean, impressive, one-mod approach. While still keeping lower payments and insurance and gas costs over the GT. :scratch:
I know this is a unusual idea, I dont need to to be told that, but if anyone has any input on the blower idea, let me know. Thx!
does anyone know of anyone who has or will put a supercharger on their 6 ? im very curious how many extra ponies that would result in and which one would be best???
Ive modded mustangs for a long time, but think supercharging a daily driver V6 would be a clean, impressive, one-mod approach. While still keeping lower payments and insurance and gas costs over the GT. :scratch:
I know this is a unusual idea, I dont need to to be told that, but if anyone has any input on the blower idea, let me know. Thx!
11/16/04, 12:43 PM
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The base price difference in the V6 and GT is less than the cost of a blower plus installation. And supercharging your 6 will require 93 octane fuel, which puts it at a disadvantage when compared to the GT and 87 octane. Supercharging your 6 may add 90-100 horsepower, which only puts it on par with the GT. I say get the GT.
11/16/04, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by BlueStangVert@November 16, 2004, 2:46 PM
The base price difference in the V6 and GT is less than the cost of a blower plus installation. And supercharging your 6 will require 93 octane fuel, which puts it at a disadvantage when compared to the GT and 87 octane. Supercharging your 6 may add 90-100 horsepower, which only puts it on par with the GT. I say get the GT.
The base price difference in the V6 and GT is less than the cost of a blower plus installation. And supercharging your 6 will require 93 octane fuel, which puts it at a disadvantage when compared to the GT and 87 octane. Supercharging your 6 may add 90-100 horsepower, which only puts it on par with the GT. I say get the GT.
11/16/04, 12:49 PM
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ford racing parts only has development plans at this point for a v8 supercharger. none in the works made public right now for the 6.
if you want more giddyup i suggest the 8 because of the supercharger price and 93 octane needed.
i test drove the 6 and changed my mind to the 8 because i have a stock 99 grand am gt that would have eaten the 6 i test drove up
if you want more giddyup i suggest the 8 because of the supercharger price and 93 octane needed.
i test drove the 6 and changed my mind to the 8 because i have a stock 99 grand am gt that would have eaten the 6 i test drove up
11/16/04, 01:07 PM
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Plus, for insurance purposes you would have to report the blower.
If for example your car was stolen or in a major collision and the insurance company found your car was heavily modified, that is the equivalent of insurance fraud and they can deny your claim/cancel your policy. This is how it goes where I am from at least.
Get the GT, you get better brakes, wheels, suspension, etc. and a warranty.
If for example your car was stolen or in a major collision and the insurance company found your car was heavily modified, that is the equivalent of insurance fraud and they can deny your claim/cancel your policy. This is how it goes where I am from at least.
Get the GT, you get better brakes, wheels, suspension, etc. and a warranty.
11/16/04, 01:07 PM
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And you can finance the extra $5000 for the GT. If you finance a supercharger, you're at the mercy of your credit card company. And if you plan to pay cash for your blower, you'd be better off using that money for your down payment.
11/16/04, 01:08 PM
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Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
11/16/04, 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rampant@November 16, 2004, 2:11 PM
Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
Having a blown V6 would be different, but go to any custom car show and you'll quickly learn that different doesn't always equal better.
11/16/04, 01:58 PM
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guys,
thanks for the intelligent replies on this. you are of course absoltuely right. i think you guys served as the straw that broke the camels back on this issue. im going gt. everyone has been saying so, but i was grasping for a way to make the v6 tolerable to me. I dont think thats going to happen- better just get the gt and not have regrets.
For any V6 potential buyers reading all this, dont let me discourage you in any way. I test drove a 6 last weekend, and it is a VERY strong motor. I think most people who get it for their daily driver would find it more than adequate.
thanks again for your opinions.
thanks for the intelligent replies on this. you are of course absoltuely right. i think you guys served as the straw that broke the camels back on this issue. im going gt. everyone has been saying so, but i was grasping for a way to make the v6 tolerable to me. I dont think thats going to happen- better just get the gt and not have regrets.
For any V6 potential buyers reading all this, dont let me discourage you in any way. I test drove a 6 last weekend, and it is a VERY strong motor. I think most people who get it for their daily driver would find it more than adequate.
thanks again for your opinions.
11/16/04, 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by BlueStangVert+November 16, 2004, 3:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlueStangVert @ November 16, 2004, 3:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rampant@November 16, 2004, 2:11 PM
Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
Having a blown V6 would be different, but go to any custom car show and you'll quickly learn that different doesn't always equal better. [/b][/quote]
The V6 pretty much uses a pre-mid 2001 GT drivetrain, albiet with much better brakes.
11/16/04, 02:11 PM
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with proper fuel upgrades and a good tune you can easilypush 300rwhp!!! most guys are getting that with pre 05's and now you have more ponies to start with!! with exhaust, intake, maybe get cams or some port work and you will romp on the gt's!!! im a 6 owner and i know the capabilities of the 6!!! if i were you i would do it!! not only that but you will also be different!!!
11/16/04, 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rampant@November 16, 2004, 2:11 PM
Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
Don't forget, the V6 comes with the T-5 (instead of the 3650 -- same automatic tranny though), 3.31 gears (instead 3.55), smaller front sway bar, no rear sway bar, smaller front brakes, and I am pretty sure weaker rear shafts.
All of which you would want to get when upping the power in the 6. The GT is a whole lot more than just an engine change.
Add that to the fact you will have to custom fabricate your own blower kit, get it tuned by someone who is unfamiliar with the new engines, and hope the engine can handle the boost levels without blowing up -- all to get roughly the same performance as a GT.
Doesn't sound like it would be worth it to me.
11/16/04, 03:31 PM
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The base 6 cylinder is not bad. Torque does not reach as deep into the lower revs as the V8 does. But the 6 can indeed get out of its own way when you put your right foot down.
I'll be buying a GT. But I was not disappointed when I drove the 6, and folks who buy the 6 for their personal reasons will be very happy with it I think.
For all the numerous reasons listed above, a blower 6 is not a practical daily driver. And the performance gain outstrips the rest of the package - especially drivetrain and brakes. Not a great idea there.
I'll be buying a GT. But I was not disappointed when I drove the 6, and folks who buy the 6 for their personal reasons will be very happy with it I think.
For all the numerous reasons listed above, a blower 6 is not a practical daily driver. And the performance gain outstrips the rest of the package - especially drivetrain and brakes. Not a great idea there.
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