So what's the point?
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So, I'm looking at window stickers online for Mustangs, comparing things, V6, V8, Deluxe, Premium, etc...
And I notice that the gas savings per gallon is about 1 mile per gallon (US). Wow. Big savings...![Icon Rolleyes](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
And then I notice the yearly savings is about, what 80-90 bucks per year (US). Whoopee... :scratch:
Then reading about the significant difference in handling between the two. And the difference in brakes. Tire sizes. And of course, the difference in horsepower.
For only about 4-5 thousand US $ difference, you get a better handling, stopping, driving car and only spend an additional $100 a year in gas...
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Unless the insurance savings pays off that 4-5 grand, what's the point in having the V6 again? And truly, can it? I don't think my insurance is THAT much per month/year/whatever different...
Now, I'd be all for a V6 look packaged around GT guts. That would rock. But with GT interior. Other than that, I myself don't see the point...
So, after much debating, I'm going with GT because pretty much the only reason I didn't want the GT in the first place was the gas cost and a couple of cosmetic things. The gas isn't worth not having the power, and the looks are easily fixed, if I need it fixed so bad anyway.
'Course, the problem is I can't get one for a while. But I guess I wanted to discuss the whyness of the V6. Don't shoot, I'm just aksin'... What say y'all?
And I notice that the gas savings per gallon is about 1 mile per gallon (US). Wow. Big savings...
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And then I notice the yearly savings is about, what 80-90 bucks per year (US). Whoopee... :scratch:
Then reading about the significant difference in handling between the two. And the difference in brakes. Tire sizes. And of course, the difference in horsepower.
For only about 4-5 thousand US $ difference, you get a better handling, stopping, driving car and only spend an additional $100 a year in gas...
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Unless the insurance savings pays off that 4-5 grand, what's the point in having the V6 again? And truly, can it? I don't think my insurance is THAT much per month/year/whatever different...
Now, I'd be all for a V6 look packaged around GT guts. That would rock. But with GT interior. Other than that, I myself don't see the point...
So, after much debating, I'm going with GT because pretty much the only reason I didn't want the GT in the first place was the gas cost and a couple of cosmetic things. The gas isn't worth not having the power, and the looks are easily fixed, if I need it fixed so bad anyway.
'Course, the problem is I can't get one for a while. But I guess I wanted to discuss the whyness of the V6. Don't shoot, I'm just aksin'... What say y'all?
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Some people can't afford that extra $5+k for a car. Some people don't see the NEED for 300hp. I'm getting the GT, but price was definitely an issue for me.
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I'm getting the V6 because of price and I honestly don't need 300HP, going from 96 to 210 is going to be a big enough jump for me.
I also hate the fogs on the GT... You can probably switch them out but the few differences between the 6 and the GT I favor the 6.
I also hate the fogs on the GT... You can probably switch them out but the few differences between the 6 and the GT I favor the 6.
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Affordability: Ok, you win. I siphon. I guess I was asking more about the performance differences...
I mean, why not just price the V8 $2500 less and don't sell the V6 at all? Like the Corvette, SSR, Town Car, Marquis, Crown Vic, Caprice, etc, ad nausem?
Just sell V8 Mustangs only. EVERYONE would be happy. I betcha you could even do the V8 at V6 pricing if you did that. Just a guess. Because it dang sure ain't doin' much CAFE good, is it? Only 1 MPG difference?![Dunno](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
You can wrap any car around a tree... Insurance difference due to engine size/type alone is silly. THE CAR is the problem, not it's HP or number of cylinders. You get a Mustang, you desire to go fast and be dumb. I sure do!
But I guess that's just me...
Anyway that's what I meant: V8 only. Not the affordibility thing. That's obvious. $US 107 per month difference is a big thing (that's what it averaged out, for both $2000 and $4000 down on the very base models of each, no options, 5.9 over 60 months, tax, title, license, and additional fees extra, see your local Ford dealer for details and to schedule a test drive, if you can actually find a dealer who actually has an actual Mustang to actually do so. Actually.)
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I mean, why not just price the V8 $2500 less and don't sell the V6 at all? Like the Corvette, SSR, Town Car, Marquis, Crown Vic, Caprice, etc, ad nausem?
Just sell V8 Mustangs only. EVERYONE would be happy. I betcha you could even do the V8 at V6 pricing if you did that. Just a guess. Because it dang sure ain't doin' much CAFE good, is it? Only 1 MPG difference?
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You can wrap any car around a tree... Insurance difference due to engine size/type alone is silly. THE CAR is the problem, not it's HP or number of cylinders. You get a Mustang, you desire to go fast and be dumb. I sure do!
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Anyway that's what I meant: V8 only. Not the affordibility thing. That's obvious. $US 107 per month difference is a big thing (that's what it averaged out, for both $2000 and $4000 down on the very base models of each, no options, 5.9 over 60 months, tax, title, license, and additional fees extra, see your local Ford dealer for details and to schedule a test drive, if you can actually find a dealer who actually has an actual Mustang to actually do so. Actually.)
I guess I'm phraseologisticamally challenged...
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i really want a V8, but those few extra thousands in price, and insurance might kill me. unless teacher salaries go up, i'm stuck with a 6.
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Originally posted by houtex@November 3, 2004, 10:49 AM
I mean, why not just price the V8 $2500 less and don't sell the V6 at all? Like the Corvette, SSR, Town Car, Marquis, Crown Vic, Caprice, etc, ad nausem?
I mean, why not just price the V8 $2500 less and don't sell the V6 at all? Like the Corvette, SSR, Town Car, Marquis, Crown Vic, Caprice, etc, ad nausem?
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Insurance/price huge differences for many. A LOT of people do not go as nuts for V8 power as you think, they just want a sporty coupe. heck, EVERY competitor in the Mustang's range has no V8 available at all.
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Originally posted by houtex@November 3, 2004, 10:49 AM
Affordability: Ok, you win. I siphon. I guess I was asking more about the performance differences...
I mean, why not just price the V8 $2500 less and don't sell the V6 at all? Like the Corvette, SSR, Town Car, Marquis, Crown Vic, Caprice, etc, ad nausem?
Just sell V8 Mustangs only. EVERYONE would be happy. I betcha you could even do the V8 at V6 pricing if you did that. Just a guess. Because it dang sure ain't doin' much CAFE good, is it? Only 1 MPG difference?![Dunno](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
You can wrap any car around a tree... Insurance difference due to engine size/type alone is silly. THE CAR is the problem, not it's HP or number of cylinders. You get a Mustang, you desire to go fast and be dumb. I sure do!
But I guess that's just me...
Anyway that's what I meant: V8 only. Not the affordibility thing. That's obvious. $US 107 per month difference is a big thing (that's what it averaged out, for both $2000 and $4000 down on the very base models of each, no options, 5.9 over 60 months, tax, title, license, and additional fees extra, see your local Ford dealer for details and to schedule a test drive, if you can actually find a dealer who actually has an actual Mustang to actually do so. Actually.)
I guess I'm phraseologisticamally challenged...![04](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/04.gif)
/Y'all notice the
smiley is my favorite yet?
Affordability: Ok, you win. I siphon. I guess I was asking more about the performance differences...
I mean, why not just price the V8 $2500 less and don't sell the V6 at all? Like the Corvette, SSR, Town Car, Marquis, Crown Vic, Caprice, etc, ad nausem?
Just sell V8 Mustangs only. EVERYONE would be happy. I betcha you could even do the V8 at V6 pricing if you did that. Just a guess. Because it dang sure ain't doin' much CAFE good, is it? Only 1 MPG difference?
![Dunno](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
You can wrap any car around a tree... Insurance difference due to engine size/type alone is silly. THE CAR is the problem, not it's HP or number of cylinders. You get a Mustang, you desire to go fast and be dumb. I sure do!
![04](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/04.gif)
Anyway that's what I meant: V8 only. Not the affordibility thing. That's obvious. $US 107 per month difference is a big thing (that's what it averaged out, for both $2000 and $4000 down on the very base models of each, no options, 5.9 over 60 months, tax, title, license, and additional fees extra, see your local Ford dealer for details and to schedule a test drive, if you can actually find a dealer who actually has an actual Mustang to actually do so. Actually.)
I guess I'm phraseologisticamally challenged...
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Originally posted by Galaxie@November 3, 2004, 12:13 PM
Considering 60-70% of Mustang sales are V6's, I see no need to dump them.
Besides, not everyone wants a V8,
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Considering 60-70% of Mustang sales are V6's, I see no need to dump them.
Besides, not everyone wants a V8,
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Well, I guess that about wraps it up!
V6 stays, GT's the one for me, and on certain issues I'm naive, but that's just the way I am.![04](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/04.gif)
/looking forward to acquiring the 2006 Ford I4. Supercar looks at affordable pricing and insurance...
V6 stays, GT's the one for me, and on certain issues I'm naive, but that's just the way I am.
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/looking forward to acquiring the 2006 Ford I4. Supercar looks at affordable pricing and insurance...
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Originally posted by kevinb120@November 3, 2004, 12:16 PM
.... And about 20,000 04's are still sitting without owners........
.... And about 20,000 04's are still sitting without owners........
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Originally posted by Galaxie+November 3, 2004, 12:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Galaxie @ November 3, 2004, 12:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kevinb120@November 3, 2004, 12:16 PM
.... And about 20,000 04's are still sitting without owners........
.... And about 20,000 04's are still sitting without owners........
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That or call them 'shelby 500s' like the 69's, um I mean 70's.
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Originally posted by thezeppelin8@November 3, 2004, 10:52 AM
i really want a V8, but those few extra thousands in price, and insurance might kill me. unless teacher salaries go up, i'm stuck with a 6.
Please help teachers in need of Mustangs
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i really want a V8, but those few extra thousands in price, and insurance might kill me. unless teacher salaries go up, i'm stuck with a 6.
Please help teachers in need of Mustangs
Send your donations to:
1234 NoOneCares Lane
Desperateville, Ca. 90640
As for V6 vs. V8, it's all about price. 19K is an entry vehicle (albiet a top of the category one) and 25 is a completely different vehicle purchase.
But I agree you're getting a dramatically different car for that extra 6K. It's just that a lot of folks don't need that hp and/or don't have the extra cash.
A good deal for each kind of buyer, IMO.
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Keep in mind that when the mustang was first introduced it was a secretary's car.....A sporty looking falcon.... The first production mustang to roll off the line was an I-6.
I see more middle aged women riding around in v6 mustangs than I do GT's altogether. People don't always buy the Mustang for performance.
Given the choice, I woulda gotten a GT, but under 21, insurance on a GT would've raped me, as well as the sticker price....
Many people who I've talked to don't even know the difference between a base mustang and a GT, aside from one of them having "prettier wheels" etc...
I see more middle aged women riding around in v6 mustangs than I do GT's altogether. People don't always buy the Mustang for performance.
Given the choice, I woulda gotten a GT, but under 21, insurance on a GT would've raped me, as well as the sticker price....
Many people who I've talked to don't even know the difference between a base mustang and a GT, aside from one of them having "prettier wheels" etc...
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Originally posted by kevinb120@November 3, 2004, 11:31 AM
I just think the V6 is quite a viable product in itself. My mom will be all over a V6 convertible, she wouldnt even consider the V8. And she has tons of bucks.
I just think the V6 is quite a viable product in itself. My mom will be all over a V6 convertible, she wouldnt even consider the V8. And she has tons of bucks.
Just kidding
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Originally posted by gokbgo@November 3, 2004, 11:29 AM
Four words for y'all...
Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE)
Four words for y'all...
Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE)
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No way. It's 1 MPG. V6 versus V8. That just can't be enough to make a difference...
Price I believe. Insurance? Well... Again, a v6 can be wrapped around a pole easier, so I really don't see the point. Damage would be similar in price to fix...
Man, I think too much when I'm waiting for hard drives to format...