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RPM surge when defrost is on??

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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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RPM surge when defrost is on??

I have an 07. It is cold here now in Indiana and I've noticed when my defrost is on, blowing warm, that there is a small jump in the RPM. it lasts about 2 seconds then stops, repeats.

The a/c blows cold and everything works fine. When i dont have it in defrost it doesn't do it. I seem to notice it when I'm in park or at a stop.

Car runs great other than this. no other idle issues.

Any help would be great. Thanks everyone!
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 08:24 AM
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I think it is just the A/C compressor cycling on and off -- the defrost uses the A/C to dry the air before it heats it
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bert
I think it is just the A/C compressor cycling on and off -- the defrost uses the A/C to dry the air before it heats it
I've read that too. Should I be worried? The car is all stock. The only thing I've done to it is add an aftermarket head unit and a back up camera..
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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How big is the RPM jump? It's probably nothing to worry about.
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SpectreH
How big is the RPM jump? It's probably nothing to worry about.
Barely anything lol. I can just hear and tell that its doing it. The rpm needle barley even moves
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 10:08 AM
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pretty sure it is normal . . . when the engine picks up the load of the A/C compressor it surges the RPM a little, just to get the compressor turning then it settles back down
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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pretty sure it is normal . . . when the engine picks up the load of the A/C compressor it surges the RPM a little, just to get the compressor turning then it settles back down
Why would the compressor be kicking on if im using defrost and dont have the ac turned on?
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Old Nov 17, 2020 | 10:12 PM
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Heater alone will cause the windscreen to fog up as the moisture in the air turns into a very light, but very much there, steam. The solution is to pull the moisture from the air, make it drier. The A/C system can do that, so they route the air through the A/C, then through the heater core, then to the windscreen. It's always used thusly. You can turn off the A/C for the other settings, but not that one (nor Max A/C, of course). Cars have been set up like this for a while now, it's a safer, faster way to get the windscreen defrosted/defogged. And some days, if you didn't have that A/C setup going on, it will be impossible to get it to work because the air is so humid.

If you're in a cold desert, sure, it'll work. But then, it probably won't be frostin'/foggin' up in the first place, not a lot of moisture going on in the first place. It could still happen, sure... But I can tell you that if you are in a rainy day/night and you try to defrost the windshield in Houston (for example, probably Tampa or Seattle or others can be made examples) without the A/C? Yeah. That's a hoot. The old cars I used to drive were miserable about it, because they didn't have A/C. So fun. Had to have a lot of napkins/paper towels/towel in general to wipe the windshield off on those days. Windows cracked sometimes helped, sometimes didn't... You really don't want no-A/C for defrost, lemme tell ya...

Hope that helps!


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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kryptonTJM
Why would the compressor be kicking on if im using defrost and dont have the ac turned on?
Originally Posted by Bert
I think it is just the A/C compressor cycling on and off -- the defrost uses the A/C to dry the air before it heats it
. . .whether you turn on the A/C or not
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 10:03 AM
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Agree with all. The compressor is used with defrost to dry the air. It will cause extra load on the motor, so it causes a surge in RPM to compensate when at idle. All normal as long as it is just a slight increase as mentioned. You are all good.
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