Road & Track April 2005
Originally posted by Dan+March 9, 2005, 10:01 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dan @ March 9, 2005, 10:01 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow...this should make for some interesting discussion.
I'm very happy at the 4.9sec 0-60 run. That's quick.
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I'm very happy at the 4.9sec 0-60 run. That's quick.
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It's got to be something in the suspension or tires, both the
Steeda, and Saleen corner better than the stock GT, but they
are both slower 0-60!
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I'm sorry but it's how the car is engineered. The only reasonable explanation for this phenominon. Also 19inchers and 20 inchers aren't exactly needed for "optimal performance". Wheels of this size are more of a Power/Weight Ratio add on. I do understand that this isn't the only aspect that could possibly explain, but could be a starting focal point.
Matt
Higher profile tires could argueably have more bite off the line. Yes, the other tires have lower profile and are wider thus more contact area, but there sides are also stiffer and so is the rubber. Buh.
The day i can't run better than a 13.6 in a 440hp car that weighs 3700 pounds, one of you needs to put a bullet in my head.
Maybe they should try to run it again and not launch like my grandmother, actually, get my grandmother in the car cause she's pretty ad bass, she'll pull a decent time.
Maybe they should try to run it again and not launch like my grandmother, actually, get my grandmother in the car cause she's pretty ad bass, she'll pull a decent time.
Larger rims will slow the car down a lot. Not just cause of the added weight, but mainly cause of the increased rotational inertia of the wheels. Assuming most of the weight of a wheel is concentrated near the rim, the inertia of a wheel increases with the square of the radius. So increasing the radius of a wheel by 5% increases its rotational inertia by 25%. More inertia means the wheel is harder to accelerate rotationally.
How bout that wickedly fast STOCK GT! 
I was disappointed by the GTR with the Cammer. I was expecting eyeball popping performance. And the GTR weighs more than the Stock GT but is stripped down.

I was disappointed by the GTR with the Cammer. I was expecting eyeball popping performance. And the GTR weighs more than the Stock GT but is stripped down.
Originally posted by mustang_sallad@March 15, 2005, 7:25 PM
Larger rims will slow the car down a lot. Not just cause of the added weight, but mainly cause of the increased rotational inertia of the wheels. Assuming most of the weight of a wheel is concentrated near the rim, the inertia of a wheel increases with the square of the radius. So increasing the radius of a wheel by 5% increases its rotational inertia by 25%. More inertia means the wheel is harder to accelerate rotationally.
Larger rims will slow the car down a lot. Not just cause of the added weight, but mainly cause of the increased rotational inertia of the wheels. Assuming most of the weight of a wheel is concentrated near the rim, the inertia of a wheel increases with the square of the radius. So increasing the radius of a wheel by 5% increases its rotational inertia by 25%. More inertia means the wheel is harder to accelerate rotationally.
Isn't the the overall heigth of the wheel and tire, the same on a 20" rim with low profile 50 or maybe 40 series tires than a 18'' rim with a 60 series tire.
If you messure, they are almost the same height.
Still dont understand the mid 14 second v6 comment... the best ive seen someone post so far is 15.2 for an automatic. Ive done 15.14 with the 5 speed because i cant seem to get a good launch on it yet.
Originally posted by My05Stang@March 15, 2005, 9:07 PM
Isn't the the overall heigth of the wheel and tire, the same on a 20" rim with low profile 50 or maybe 40 series tires than a 18'' rim with a 60 series tire.
If you messure, they are almost the same height.
Isn't the the overall heigth of the wheel and tire, the same on a 20" rim with low profile 50 or maybe 40 series tires than a 18'' rim with a 60 series tire.
If you messure, they are almost the same height.
Originally posted by mustang_sallad@March 15, 2005, 10:24 PM
ya but the mass of the tire is small compared to the mass of the rim
ya but the mass of the tire is small compared to the mass of the rim
Just wondering how much of a difference that really makes.
I'm just wondering where they got their weight info from? I just checked both Ford and Saleen's websites and this is what they state:
GT Premium-3506 lbs.
GT Deluxe---3487 lbs.
v6 Premium-3371 lbs.
v6 Deluxe---3352 lbs.
Saleen-------3550 lbs.
Anyone want to add to this? I think the #'s and results look odd.
GT Premium-3506 lbs.
GT Deluxe---3487 lbs.
v6 Premium-3371 lbs.
v6 Deluxe---3352 lbs.
Saleen-------3550 lbs.
Anyone want to add to this? I think the #'s and results look odd.
Originally posted by mcomb+March 16, 2005, 2:26 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mcomb @ March 16, 2005, 2:26 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-mustang_sallad@March 15, 2005, 10:24 PM
ya but the mass of the tire is small compared to the mass of the rim
ya but the mass of the tire is small compared to the mass of the rim
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It's all physics, my man. And I would have to agee w/ Mustang Sallad. It makes sense.
Originally posted by GhostTX@March 9, 2005, 9:07 AM
Since TMS has imposed image upload size, I'll need someone to host these.
Since TMS has imposed image upload size, I'll need someone to host these.

I use a free program called "Fast Stone" Image Viewer. It works great for cropping and resizing without loosing image resolution.
And why does the Steeda Silver Q, which according to the charts, weighs the same as a stock GT and has 67 MORE hp and 46 ft/lbs. of torque YET, it has the same 0-60 time, same 1/4 mile time just a little faster but, handles the slalom at a lower speed than the stock GT? Anyone?
EDIT: Also, the article says the Steeda has a 3.73 rear end instead of the stock 3.55.
EDIT: Also, the article says the Steeda has a 3.73 rear end instead of the stock 3.55.

















