Boomer

Other mods, please don't move...

I know its off topic, but I need everyones thoughts on this.

BON thread

I started it over at BON, so please read, and give your best response.
Technical, not babble

TMSBrad

No informative non-biased web sites out there on it. I'd like to see some dyno results.

Boomer

Yeah, exactly.
I don't take words that 'it cuts fuel consumption by 33%' or 'adds power'
I guess you can get away with saying it, even if it adds 0.1hp
hahah

I want to see graphs and numbers darnit

crazyhorse

Strictly theory, but, i doubt it works.

It is my understanding that these work by creating turbulent flow of air through the intake. The fan blades get it swirling and that "increases air flow" From everything I learned in my physics courses, turbulent flow is the least efficient flow. It causes more drag/friction and backflow in the system. Laminar (straight) flow is the most efficient.

If you dyno it, let us know the results.

Dr Iven

Sounds like a Tornado. We all know how great those things are.

I could see gimmicks like these working with a liquid flow, but air is not as easily influenced as water. What I mean is, the spin these devices create would cause water to spin and keep spinning as it passes through the tube, due to the properties of water molecules. But, air molecules are not as tightly bonded, and will not hold the vortex for long at all. It seems like it would create the adverse and cause the air to be disrupted and slow down.

f1-cobra

For $70.00 you can get a Tornado that claims to give you 2-3hp and 2-3 ft lbs torque.

:shock:

The infomercial they used to have was hilarious. Just like the one where they ran the engine with no oil and threw dirt in it to see if it would seize.

svtdriver

Someone I know said he got about 2 miles per tank better gas mileage with the tornado. But that it did nothing for his hp (he did dyno it with and without it on). But I don't think that the fuel genie it any different form the tornado. Though I am curious about why they claim better mpg, fuel economy, and cleaner emissions. But the cleaner emissions takes 2 tanks before the genie cleans out the fuel system? I'm just not buying into all that.

burningman

heck you can get that kinda gain by just changing your driving style

Scothew

so its made of plastic huh? What happens when I spray n2o/fuel mix across this puppy and it starts desinegrating from it not being chemical resistant. I therefore suck pieces of plastic into my motor.. mm plastic coating 16 intake valves.

Where do I sign up!





Its a tornado rip off, dont trust it.

Scothew

Also, why is this in the '05 forum?

Galaxie

Hmm... I see no reason for it to have any kind of effect....

what is it supposed to do? create a turbulent effect in the intake? There is all kinds of computational fulid dynamics done on intake manifold to predict/control how the air flows. So a spare piece of extruded plastic jammed in the intake tract is not going to make much of a difference IMO.

I looked at the website.. the company is based a short drive from my house. Maybe I should go and pay a visit to see what these guys are all about

Scothew

HAHHAH do it!

Boomer

Scothew...just because its the highest volume forum and I needed some feedback (plus i was thinkin about putting one in my 05 )

Maybe we should email MM & Fast Fords to ask them to test it

Scothew

Remind me to Ban you if you put one of those near an '05

Boomer

I'll ban myself from the internet if I put anything like that in my 05!

Sendero

Ok, in theory it works but in real life fluid dynamics it stinks. Think about it:

If you are pouring water out of one pipe into a bucket, then pouring water out of a second pipe with that contraption in there which one is going to flow more water over a given amount of time? Which one is going to give you the most constant rate of flow too?

You are creating turbulence in the intake tract that will cause premature reversion. The intake tract is already designed for X amount of flow in a set path. When you disrupt this flow you'll get all sorts of evils like: poor cylinder filling, fuel atomization, and fuel puddling.

I say busted, but I'm going to send it in to Mythbusters anyway. I want my reward money when the air it too.

Scothew

Nathan, you just had to go and make a thread all technical didnt you. Geesh