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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Need help picking next mod

It's Christmas time, and I've got a little cash to put into the next mod, but I am unsure which way to go. I've got the CAI and tune from Brenspeed and the 4.10 gears, I would like this to be a performance mod, but if it happens to help the looks or sound of the car then great.

1. I've got the 18" polished aluminum factory bullitt wheels with the BFGoodrich 235/50/18 ties, should I upgrade these to 18x9 and 18x10 with 255 and 275 Nitto's?

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2. The car is at stock height, should I lower with Steeda Ultralites, Tokico D-Specs and the adjusable panhard rod?

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3. Get some LT headers with cats to go with my Borla stingers?

Personaly I'm leaning to the headers, but this seems to be the hardest of the mods.

What do ya'll think?
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Get some ARH LT's or JBA LT's, you will love the mean sound and the extra ponies! I HIGHLY recommend LT's . I installed them myself in my garage on jackstands with the help from my father(and Lowe!'s write-up on his ARH Install). It really wasn't too bad if you take your time and have patience (First "mods" I have ever done to any car were the mufflers and the CAI/tune)
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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You could go with
1) a Spidershaft one piece driveshaft... I believe they are $475

2)My personal favorite..Eibach Pro kit and an adjustable panhard bar with D-Specs

3)Underdrive pulleys

4)CMCV delete plates with upgraded tune

5)wheels and tires are always a plus!

These are some quick suggestions
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Thanks Matt, I was thinking of some ARH LT's or some Kooks LT's, but I was really worried about installing. I have jackstands and like you all I have done so far is mufflers and CAI. Did you have any issues with getting the old ones out or the new ones in? I really think I'll give it a try, and if I can't I'll get a mechanic I know at the Ford dealership to help me out.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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I say headers, you get sound and performance
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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headers, then springs
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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i vote headers
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Headers sounds good to me. I'll need to get a modified tune from Brenspeed. What reasonable gains can I expect from the new performance of the headers? Is it like going from stock to the tuned CAI, cause that was like, OH S***!!!!
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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for the low price ,I say lower it first.200 for the ultralites
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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I was kind of waiting on lowering to do the shocks and struts also while I had them out of the car and reinstall with the J&M or Steeda strut mounts. I don't heear the popping yet, but with the camber adjustment and the security I would feel from the upper mounts I would just like to do the fast majority of suspension at once.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Thanks Matt, I was thinking of some ARH LT's or some Kooks LT's, but I was really worried about installing. I have jackstands and like you all I have done so far is mufflers and CAI. Did you have any issues with getting the old ones out or the new ones in? I really think I'll give it a try, and if I can't I'll get a mechanic I know at the Ford dealership to help me out.
Gary, I vote for headers! And if you want an AWESOME sound, go with American Racing Long Tube headers with their catted H-pipe! the sound your car makes with Borla Stingers (which is what I have) is SICK!!! If you wanted to hear what it sounds like, click on the link below. Its from a cruise I took with my Mustang club to Long Beach Island in Jersey. My car comes up into the video at 00:30 into the video. Crank up the speakers, lol!! I do a "fly by" and you'll get an idea what L/Ts do to Stingers!!! That's my vote bud!! Good luck on your decisions!!

Oh, and to answer your question about gains, anywhere from 10hp (on the very low end) to the mid 20 hp range in gains. Since I'm not going forced induction anytime soon, this was my extra power adder. Plus the sound alone was worth it to me, the very 1st time I heard my car at the dyno shop!! I was like "HOLY ****!!! IT SOUNDS NASTY!!! A smile on my face a mile wide!!!

LBI Mustang cruise (my car come in at 00:30)
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Man that made up my mind. Reminds me of why I've always wanted a Mustang since I was 5. Why I used to build all those Revel models when I was 10 just dreaming of what mine would look like someday. Dude how lucky are we to have such awesome toys.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Thanks Matt, I was thinking of some ARH LT's or some Kooks LT's, but I was really worried about installing. I have jackstands and like you all I have done so far is mufflers and CAI. Did you have any issues with getting the old ones out or the new ones in? I really think I'll give it a try, and if I can't I'll get a mechanic I know at the Ford dealership to help me out.

I went with JBA LT's because I found a killer deal on some new ones from ebay, but from what I have heard ARH LT's are top of the line. I used a combonation of Tacobills writeups (H-Pipe & Battery Removal) and Lowe!'s ARH Install. The instructions I received from JBA were very general with few pictures, so I basically printed off Lowe's write-up. Getting the stock manifolds wasn't difficult, but it wasn't that easy as it takes some stretching and maneuvering to get those bottom front bolts.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...urnal+american here is a link to Lowe's write-up. I read through it thoroughly atleast 5 times to get a feel of the process. Some handy tools that I used (mentioned in the write-up) were the craftman wratcheting box-end wrenches and a floor jack. The hardest part I had with the install for some reason was jacking up the motor to put the new LT's in. For me it was more scary than difficult.

I definately felt power gains after the LT's, not sure how much because I have not yet dyno'd my car.(I also get the updated tunes from a dealer). Some have claimed 20+ HP and some have not seen the results that they wished for. I think no matter what, it is worth it for the rumble.

Pheewww

Hope this helps!

-Matt
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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How scary was that jacking up the motor. How much did you have to jack it up. 1/2", 2",?

Man just saw the Patriots win on last play. Gosh I hate the Patriots.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Looks like if I'm gonna do headers I should do them before lowering the car. Does that make sense? If I know I'm gonna do 'em eventually do it now while the car sits at its highest?
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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I'd say to go with a driveshaft!

But..... If you do decide to get a set of headers, my buddy is selling a set of American Racing Long Tubes with Catted X and Off Road H for a great price! They've got very few miles, and they've never been out in the rain!

His screen name is Cali HP Addict, and you can send him a PM on this site as well as www.S197forum.com
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
How scary was that jacking up the motor. How much did you have to jack it up. 1/2", 2",?

Man just saw the Patriots win on last play. Gosh I hate the Patriots.
Jacking up the car in general for me is kind of shaky because there is an area in my garage that kind of dips down. Jacking up the motor on the other hand wasn't difficult, just be sure to go slow and take your time. I jacked er up about an inch give or take 1/4. I also saw that game. Baltimore almost pulled it out at the end, woulda been great for them.
I really dont think it would make much of a difference about lowering it or not if you are up on jack stands though. Check out those ARH from above, might get a great deal on em!
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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So how'd it go?

















Revenge.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Well I just said F it and did everything.

I can't believe that was so many mods and so many $$$ ago.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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and how many 1,000s of posts ago..lol....time for the BOSSLS mod.
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