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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Changed the oil in Dad's 06 GT today. It is the second oil change it has had. The first one was done at 600 miles and this one was done at 3100 miles. The oil that came out of the oil pan was clean and free of debris. The oil that came out of the filter was chopped full of this metal glitter crap. Take a look for yourself. What should I do???? BTW, I used motorcraft 5W-20 oil and filter and this car is driven fairly easy( 50/50 city / highway driving).
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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So if I read what you said correctly, only the oil in that came out of the filter had this in it. No worries. That is what the oil filter is suppose to do. Trap any particles in the oil. When you dump it out some of the particles will be released from the filter. It is not a big deal. I could be wrong but I would expect what you are seeing is normal wear for a new engine.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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^^^what he said^^^
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Cool, thats what I was hopeing for. If this had been an engine with 50,000 miles would that still be acceptable or not?
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Aluminum engines have some material left over from being machined when new. You should not see anything like that at 50,000 miles though.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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eh, otoh it could be normal. I did some reading.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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If you're still concerned about the metallic particles in the oil, there are oil analysis labs that will test your oil and tell you what's wearing. (I don't know if you still have that drain oil available by now though.)
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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just be sure to keep those reciepts for the oil, and records of dates/mileage just in case...

I think the rough surface texture of cast aluminum could hold a little bit of machining swarf that would be hard to clean no matter how well its washed out...but I'd be just a little worried about seeing beyond first oilchange though. Ask your dealer- or maybe not... better yet (just in case) have them do the next oilchange(still before first required service) so that cars maintenance records cannot even become a issue in event of a problem later.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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I cut the oil filter open and it wasnt as bad as I thought it would be. There was some small metal pieces in there though. Has anyone else seen this kind of glittery oil come out of the oil filter on there stangs, or any other car for that matter? I am saving the filter for future comparisons.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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Thats a little short of a time for an oil change [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img]
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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I just changed the oil myself in my '06 this weekend. Was at about 3500 miles (yeah, yeah Kevin - early). I didn't see any particles come out of my filter when I dumped it out. Car was built in October of '05 - I mainly do about 90% highway.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Speaking of oil filters...

years ago I happened to see a metal chip- a big chip- hanging inside my new filter...ever since Ive been checking before installing, and found a couple more like that over the years. Same thing for air filters- my wifes cousin bought a K&N filter for his transam, and asked me to help put it in(he dont mess with cars at all), opened up the box, looking at the filter- there was a loose staple hanging on the underside of the filter...wether if came that way, someone had it out messing with/looking at or whatever- that coulda been bad. I think most cars have center inlet, so burrs in threading might not go anywhere anyhow- but I dont want stuff like that anywhere near my oil...dont hurt to look over before installing anything.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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I don't think the center is the inlet, it is always the outlet. I am 100% sure on this. So it is even more important to check the threads for metal.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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I changed my oil at 1,000 miles, and I also had the same metal particles in it. They came out of the pan, not the filter, but I'm going to assume it's from being a brand new engine. I'm due for my 2nd oil change soon, and I don't expect any extra material in there. I'm also glad to know that I wasn't the only person that took a picture of the oil that I drained out for my first oil change !
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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No particles on any of my oil changes. I'm gonna assume this stuff just varies from motor to motor. Unless you see big chunks don't worry about it.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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When I am talking about the oil that comes out of the filter, I mean the oil that comes out of the dirty side of the filter. The only way to drain this oil is to prop the anti-drain-back valve open (it does not come out when the filter is upside-down). Does anyone else do this? Will everybody start doing this and report back here so we can get a concinsense (SP?) for if this is normal or not? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]

What if the oil still has metal in it next oil change? Do you have to be able to prove to the dealer that you changed the oil in order for them to warranty the engine if something happens? Is the old filter proof enough or do you have to have reciepts?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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If you're really concerned about it...

try FILTERMAG

Here's a topic discussing it
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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From my 1,100 mile one year oil change. That I let drain for 3 hours. I filtered very drop. No glitter at all.

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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(VQ35DE @ February 13, 2006, 4:56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don't think the center is the inlet, it is always the outlet. I am 100% sure on this. So it is even more important to check the threads for metal.
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I wasnt sure, never paid attention when cleaning oil galleys/rebuilding...thanks for the info, and hope everyone checks their filters before mounting! even brand names can get a bad one out once in a while. people made it, people make mistakes...dont let it cost you.

as far as a filtermag, I kinda think a magnetic drain plug is even better- that way it *might* keep any metal from passing thru your oil pump- clearances in there are likely as tight as in bearings...only bad thing is most particles I would expect to be aluminum from block/head/piston machining, or babbit from a bearing- at least these are relatively 'soft'. I think most ferrous stuff you'll find is from cams and timing gears...
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