Thanks. I am looking foward to the new stang as I am sure all of us here are. I am just praying mine somes with the IUP. Although have to admit that I am agreeing with something I saw on someones signature more & more every day. It goes something like this:

"I think the only thing certain here is that Ford has no idea what it's doing" [/b][/quote]
That would be me

I removed it from my signature but it actually read:

"The only thing we know, is that we have no idea what Ford is doing"

But sometimes, I think you're version seems more correct. Believe in the blue oval!

 

Uhh...you mean a 200 INLINE six? [/b][/quote]
I'm not sure what you are asking. See that car was given to me by my grandfather when I was in the 4th grade. And then when I got my license he decided it wasn't good enough for me to drive & that I needed something better & newer. So, I never got to drive it before he sold it. I was just asuming it was a six cylinder. I could be wrong. If he wasn't in the bed I could call & ask him but we don't wasnt to wake grandpa up. So, like I said I could be wrong. If I am I can always change it. Besides I really know very.very little about cars & their engines. My brother, grandfather, & uncle are the car crazies. Even my mom knows more about them. I just never was really interested. So, chances are you're right about the motor.



"QUOTE (JZInternet @ October 21, 2004, 8:23 PM)
I say some car salesman started this big fat rumor in order to get his customer to order one now. Now he got evryone worried. lol "

If that's the case I would REALLY like to get my hands on the saleperson. They would defiently think 5 or 6 times before they started another rumor.

 

Dan, thanks. I knew it was something like that I just couldn't remember exactly how it was worded. And I didn't remember who it was that had that either. I just knew I didn't want to take credit for it cause I wasn't the one who said it. I'm in college & that's defiently one thing they drill into your head is stealing someone elses word. Thanks again though.

And I am trying to believe in the blue oval. It's actually the only thing I have ever believed in as far as cars go. So, I am hoping that eveerything will work out for ALL of us in the end.

 

kerafaith, I think that Mustangfreak's point was that there was no V6 in 67, only an INLINE 6. This refers to the arrangement of the cylinders. Actually, for me, it brings back memories of the Chrysler SLANT 6.

To Grantsdale, are you REALLY sure that Ford makes more on the GT than the V6? If so, why?

Honestly, they used up more money re-designing the 3V V8 than they did with the old-skool V6 engine, so I would not be surprised at all if they make more money off the V6 versions. I can't back up that claim with fact, but I doubt that you can back up yours.

Not trying to start a fight, just fighting misinformation.

 

Thing is, Dan stole it from someone else anyway! (although he did credit them in his sig....)

 

I think Grantsdale is noting this because such development costs would spreadsheet against the entire project, not just a hypothetical GT model column.

Ford will amortize development costs over time because that is to their advantage financially.

With the GT being a higher-priced product, it is logical to presume it has greater margin. Car companies have operated like this since the early days. For that matter, it is part of Mustang history, starting with the 418,000 units sold of the '641/2 and'65 model. On average, those customer spent $1000 over sticker price in just options they liked.

And the IUP availability issue is not likely to be aluminum trim or anything like that. My bet is the MyColor feature is what is jamming up the gears.

Ford did their planning based of 50-60% ordering IUP and got 70-80%. They're surprised too, I am sure, and will remedy this as fast as they can. Ford WANTS you to have it. You like it and it is more money for them

 

You can find other numbers at fordvehicles.com. But here is the US #

1-800-392-3673 M-F 8-8 eastern & Sat 9-5:30 Eastern[/b][/quote]
I just got off the phone with customer service and they said my car was supposed to be delivered yesterday. Unfortunately, I feel just as lost as before I called them. My dealer has been saying it was due since the 18th. Is the information from customer service any more accurate than the dealer's info. Who knows?

Also the customer service representative said they do not have any information regarding whether it is on a train or a truck. She did say it was not being held for any reason.

Car 6620 where are you?

 

So hey everybody. I just called the Ford number listed here to ask about my status. The lady on the phone was SUPER nice, and tried to be very helpful. However, when she asked me for my order#, body style, and dealer, she could not come up with anything for me. She said "are you sure that the body style is T82?" Because she said that was giving an error. So I said for her to try 140A as the body style, but that didn't work either. She said she thought something was wrong with the computer system and that she would call me back later today with my status. I'll keep you posted.

 

ok...so no sooner did i make my last post, the lady from ford called me back!! She told me that I was sub to plant, serialized, Scheduled build date of Nov 1!!!

I previously knew about my sub to plant but I had the TEMP DELAY Status with no Build Date.

My question is: is it possible that I am still on the temp delay and that my build date could change?

 

They asked me for my VIN. She also was having computer trouble, but called me back in 5 minutes. Try them again and give them your VIN.

 

Uhm, how much money they spend designing the car or its components has no bearing on how much profit they make when selling it. It carries an extra $5000 price tag, there is no way they don't make any extra profit off that $5000.

 

Seems to me that Ford just screwed the pooch when it came to their projections. It is certainly a plausible error that any car manufacture could suffer from. What I find entertaining is how much Ford has shown off the IUP & MyColor system and made such a big fuss about it, then isn't equipped to assemble a large quantity of cars with the IUP.

Anycase... For those of us buying a V6 (of which I am one) if IUP means that much (and it does) just wait. I'd rather get an 06 Mustang simply because the 05 will likely be loaded with various bugs that won't be found until the car hits 10k or so. You can also take the extended period of time when V6 won't have the IUP to save up money so you don't have to finance so much! They will eventually start producing the V6 Stang with the IUP package... Maybe in Janurary, maybe not until June. But they will eventually start up the production again.

Profit or not, Ford will lose customers by opting for immediate near-term profit by not honoring the sequence of orders placed for the IUP; reguardless of GT or V6. If I pre-ordered a V6 Mustang w/IUP and found out that I can't get my car for lord know's low long because Ford decided that only the more expensive GT would be able to get it until they can take care of the IUP shortage I would be furious. :bang: Of course with a car so popular Ford will easily replace what few customers they lose with new customers interested in the re-vamped car.

 

At least someone understands business

 

IUP option

Don't get me wrong I am not changing my order of IUP, but....

I sat in the GT Thursday here in Walnut Creek, CA (NorCal) and was not all that impressed with the IUP. The colors are not that rich in the dash, and the silver paint is not as sleek as just black plastic. its kinda gaudy. I am not expecting cadillac quality, just wanted everyone to know that IUP is not the be all / end all its cracked up to be. (I am still buying it)

 

my car is still missing in action so I called the center to find out why it's not shipping.

SO, here's my experience calling the center.

I called yesterday morning, went through the extensive phone tree until I was transfered to an operator. When the operator came on she asked me the usual questions: body type, year, and vin. I gave her my vin and she asked if I was correct about that vin, because "all ford vehicles start with 1F"

I should have stopped there, but n-o-o-o-o I went on. She asked who my dealer was, name, phone number and salesman. Thought she was just gathering information. I told her that my car was built on 9/9 and initially shipped on 10/2. But the status changed from Convoy on 10/2 with a delivery of 10/14. To TBD.

She put me on hold and came back and said my salesman wasn't in but she would call me back with information.

About an hour later she called to tell me that my salesman was on vacation until monday but she talked to one of the owners and learned what convoy means and that I talk to the dealership about 2-3 times a week and yada-yada-yada. When the operator called back she told me she wasn't able to determine where my car was but they would call me back on Monday.

I immiedelty called my dealership (all the owners are friends of my father in law) to explain my actions and not to make them think I wasn't back dooring them. The owner that I spoke to understood and no harm done. Just a waste of my time. I thought I was calling someoone who would tell me why my car is stuck in Michigan. But I got some air head who basically called my dealer to find out why my car is still in Michigan.

 

derynf, sounds like you got someone who didn't know what the heck they were talking about. Sorry about that. I didn't have any problems any of the times I have called I have been put straight through. I don't recall ever being put on hold either. Angain, it sounds like you got someone who didn't know anything about anything.

Grantsdale: You know what just forget about all of the V6vs V8 in sales & money made for a second. If Ford only has 25,000 to 30,000 pre-ordered & they are projecting 150,000 & already they have problems with the parts. It's not going to matter if a V6, V8, a 2 cylinder, bicycle, or even a 28 cylinder they are screwed.

Because if they were projecting 50 or 60% of all orders to include the IUP then what's 70%of 25-30k cars. It's only 17500 - 21000 cars out of their projected 75000 - 90000. If they have run out of parts already then that still leaves 57500 - 69000 projected cars that they have NO parts at all for. And if they CAN get parts for the remaining 57500-69000 cars then they CAN get the parts for ALL cars.

So like I said someone screwed up somewhere & that someone should have to pay through the skin for it.

 

Their supplier will ramp up production on the IUP but until then the regular shipment will just grow slowly, but it will take time. Ford doesn't buy all the parts for the whole year and put them on the shelf. They will come in a couple weeks before the car is built. As the supplier ramp up production and delivers more IUP parts, then AAI can schedule more cars to be built at the new rate what ever it is at that time.

 

They asked me for my VIN. She also was having computer trouble, but called me back in 5 minutes. Try them again and give them your VIN. [/b][/quote]
I just got off the phone with them about my car. Gave them the VIN# and found out my car has been delayed another week, now scheduled 11/8 week. The lady was real helpful but didn't have very much info on why the delay, etc...She also said that the dealer/salesman has access to this information and alot more.

 

OK, so I just called the Customer Service Center and they told me that the estimated arrival date at the dealership is 10/27/04 (for those of you too lazy to do the math, that's this Wednesday!!!).

Anyway, as excited as I am, I'm trying not to get my hopes too high. I know the shipping has been somewhat erratic. So here's my question for those of you who have already received their Stangs:

How far off from the Estimated Delivery Date did you receive your Mustang?

 

Well, I just called customer service, and they told me that they no longer have a system in place to check on vehicle status. It's only been a few weeks since I placed my order, but my dealership just keeps saying "no updates." Shouldn't I at least be able to know if the order has been pulled yet?

For you other folks, how long was it before you heard your first update?

Thanks.