2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

Jeremy Clarkson is an idiot...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12/6/06, 05:25 AM
  #21  
Closet American
 
Hollywood_North GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 17, 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by metroplex
I see nothing wrong with live axles. We use them everywhere in the US: trucks, vans, and high performance cars. They are inexpensive, simple, durable but crude. I think people want their cake and eat it too: fancy IRS that can handle 480 ft-lb of torque. It can be done, but at a significant price. Ford Motor Company was started with the idea of having an affordable vehicle in every driveway. The Ford GT, while nice, seemed to go against the grain of Henry Ford's vision. However, the S-197 GT and the Shelby GT500 have this vision in the spirit of the car. 300 hp, 0-60 in under 6 seconds, 1/4 mile in the 13s, bone stock for $24k-$25k new (stripper GT Deluxe). It's quite difficult to find another car with similar factory warrantied performance characteristics that can be bought at that price off the showroom floor. I'm open to either setup (IRS or live-axle) so long as it is durable. Didn't the 1999 Cobra have IRS? I recall reading about someone's 99 Cobra (on Corral) losing the IRS on the highway and having his Cobra wrapped around a telephone pole.
Yes, yes, we hear those old arguments about "cheap, crude & reliable" time and time and time again, but I wonder - can you name me ONE other performance GT automobile in the world that still uses a solid rear axle?

And if not, then why not?



Originally Posted by metroplex
So when are we (Americans) going to make a Top Gear-style show that makes fun of European cars every 5 minutes?
Now THAT'S a bloody good idea! Let's have at it then.
Old 12/6/06, 05:31 AM
  #22  
Legacy TMS Member
 
metroplex's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 2, 2006
Location: Southeast Michigan
Posts: 4,778
Received 16 Likes on 11 Posts
Yes, yes, we hear those old arguments about "cheap, crude & reliable" time and time and time again, but I wonder - can you name me ONE other performance GT automobile in the world that still uses a solid rear axle? And if not, then why not?
I can't name any off the top of my head, but the GT500's MSRP is also generally less expensive than other RWD/V8 performance cars with comparable engine outputs.
Old 12/6/06, 10:38 AM
  #23  
GT Member
 
WB05stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 6, 2005
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I just can't beleive how many post keep popping up about this guy. If he is such an idiot why does everyone keep promoting him.

The guy is getting exactly what he wants attention. So you know how to solve it? Ignore the moron and stop talking about him. **** people let it go.
Old 12/6/06, 11:57 AM
  #24  
Bullitt Member
 
Strickland's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 29, 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
Posts: 494
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I watched some of the video this morning (causing me to get into work alittle late... oops) and had to keep from laughing the entire time. He does like the Roush Stage 3, though pitting it vs a Lotus is alittle one sided.
Old 12/6/06, 07:08 PM
  #25  
Closet American
 
Hollywood_North GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 17, 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by metroplex
I can't name any off the top of my head
I'll let you in on a little secret: It's because they don't exist.

Originally Posted by metroplex
...but the GT500's MSRP is also generally less expensive than other RWD/V8 performance cars with comparable engine outputs.
You get what you pay for.
Old 12/7/06, 06:11 AM
  #26  
Legacy TMS Member
 
metroplex's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 2, 2006
Location: Southeast Michigan
Posts: 4,778
Received 16 Likes on 11 Posts
Originally Posted by BC_Shelby
You get what you pay for.
$150k Ford GT
Old 12/7/06, 04:23 PM
  #27  
Closet American
 
Hollywood_North GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 17, 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by metroplex
$150k Ford GT
Yup.
Old 12/7/06, 05:25 PM
  #28  
Mach 1 Member
 
rocket88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 11, 2006
Posts: 845
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by WB05stang
I just can't beleive how many post keep popping up about this guy. If he is such an idiot why does everyone keep promoting him.

The guy is getting exactly what he wants attention. So you know how to solve it? Ignore the moron and stop talking about him. **** people let it go.
It's because the show, Top Gear, which he is one of the hosts of, is god **** fantastic. Our media doesn't have the stones to do a show like that. They do real tests and reviews of cars and they have fun doing it. What do we get here? Fluff. He may be wrong sometimes, but at least he has an opinion.
Old 12/7/06, 06:08 PM
  #29  
Mach 1 Member
 
06GTwJUICE's Avatar
 
Join Date: August 25, 2006
Posts: 914
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Top Gear is a bunch of tools....

I've never seen a good review of a car from the US by them.

I think they even trashed on the Corvette......

bunch of morons.
Old 12/7/06, 06:28 PM
  #30  
Closet American
 
Hollywood_North GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: July 17, 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 06GTwJUICE
Top Gear is a bunch of tools....

bunch of morons.
Which is pretty much what they think about us.

So who's right?

Depends upon your perspective.

Meanwhile, Top Gear is the greatest show on television!
Old 12/7/06, 08:24 PM
  #31  
Cobra Member
 
Imatk's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 13, 2005
Posts: 1,339
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Neither is right. To group a country or race or whatever and say that they are "morons" or whatever really smacks of racism to me. Although we're not talking races it's the same principal.
Old 12/7/06, 08:33 PM
  #32  
Shelby GT500 Member
 
blkstang06's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 9, 2006
Location: It's tough in the jungle !
Posts: 2,758
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Imatk
Neither is right. To group a country or race or whatever and say that they are "morons" or whatever really smacks of racism to me. Although we're not talking races it's the same principal.
So!... What your point?
Old 12/8/06, 08:48 AM
  #33  
Shelby GT500 Member
 
GhostTX's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 10, 2004
Location: Sherman, TX
Posts: 2,585
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Imatk
Neither is right. To group a country or race or whatever and say that they are "morons" or whatever really smacks of racism to me. Although we're not talking races it's the same principal.
No...we're talking about Clarkson and his extreme bias toward American cars.

His review of the Z06 cracked me up. The entire segment, he was saying how great a car it is. Then at the end of the review, he said it was a piece of s***.
Old 12/9/06, 01:00 AM
  #34  
FR500 Member
 
RaGsHoCkEy88's Avatar
 
Join Date: June 12, 2004
Posts: 3,071
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Louie
It's not from a TopGear episode, but from JC's latest DVD, "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly". It was released in Europe last month.


i saw it....its all rediculous
Old 12/9/06, 08:44 AM
  #35  
Cobra Member
 
Imatk's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 13, 2005
Posts: 1,339
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by blkstang06
So!... What your point?
Thought I made it pretty clear... Neither is right.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Grand Marquis427
Toys and Automobilia
2
12/30/11 10:54 AM
Ford Ferret
SN95 Mustang
5
12/22/09 02:01 AM
Hollywood_North GT
Off-Topic Chatter
2
9/27/08 10:53 PM
Hollywood_North GT
General Vehicle Discussion/News
2
2/18/06 07:25 AM
FordGTfan
Ford Discussions
0
11/16/05 07:49 PM



Quick Reply: Jeremy Clarkson is an idiot...



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:22 PM.