2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

It's Official: Glass Roof in 2009!

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Mustang’s Glass Roof is made of tinted privacy glass, which reduces both infrared rays and vehicle cool-down time by 50 percent. A manual roller blind is built in, allowing owners to further control exposure on sunny days.
The specially formulated glass also protects interior fabric material from solar radiation deterioration and discoloration by reducing solar light transmittance. To help improve acoustics and Mustang’s interior quietness, the glass also features a layer of vinyl that reduces noise, vibration and harshness.
It has a built-in roller blind to block the sun, and the glass is designed for proper insulation and protection. If Ford is releasing it on a Mustang, you can bet your farm that they ran it through a slew of tests.

On the other hand, if an aftermarket vendor released a glassback roof for the Stang, you should do your homework because they obviously didn't bother to run tests. A Saleen glassback roof would probably melt, just like their HIDs.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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Cool! Can't wait to see more.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
It has a built-in roller blind to block the sun, and the glass is designed for proper insulation and protection. If Ford is releasing it on a Mustang, you can bet your farm that they ran it through a slew of tests.

On the other hand, if an aftermarket vendor released a glassback roof for the Stang, you should do your homework because they obviously didn't bother to run tests. A Saleen glassback roof would probably melt, just like their HIDs.

CDC's testing including extended stress testing and flex testing is some of the most extensive on any aftermarket part in history. It actually strengthens the torsional rigidity of the unibody signifigantly. You can get the 40 page booklet from them if you like. It was even run on the road force simulator, usually reserved for OEM or race testing only. The decorative trim is a different issue though...
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Tested with what powertrain though. A Stock 4.6 probably won't be a problem.

Like I said, it most likely won't be availble on anything that can generate over 400 Foot pounds of torque. Rear Wheel Drive Unibodies twist and flex no matter how well they're made. Unless the factory starts putting subframe connectors on, it's going to be a problem option for the higer performing packages.

On the other hand the majority of people buying with that option are likely not going to be in a state that spends half the year above 100 degrees or be buying the super GT1000 or whatever road race ready top end package they come up with.

I remember watching an episode of Pinks where two mustangs raced and one had a moon roof. I know it's a different thing but when he launched the whole body twisted enought to pop that thing loose and he lost the glass at half track.

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zaghloul
Ever seen a Porsche Targa?? Its glass roof slides back under the rear window. Why is that so difficult to conceptualize?
Here's a link to that..
http://cars.blogs.ca/2006/07/18/pors...ve-911-models/

Of course if you're already paying 100K for a car what's another 10 Grand for a goofy roof!
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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The Porsche badging can cost a few thousand if you order it on a Cayman S. What starts off as a $50k car easily turns into $80k with modest options.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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They said 119K for the Targa S on the site I linked to.

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Ford is trying very hard to get me to trade in my '05 and it's getting very hard to resist! I really like the glassback look and would be willing to give it a Texas summer test if Ford wants it tested here. Someone from Ford needs to call me and set it up.

Announcer Voice--> The New Glassback option. It's Texas tested and Texas Tough! <----Announcer Voice
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by elcaminoguy
Tested with what powertrain though. A Stock 4.6 probably won't be a problem.

Like I said, it most likely won't be availble on anything that can generate over 400 Foot pounds of torque. Rear Wheel Drive Unibodies twist and flex no matter how well they're made. Unless the factory starts putting subframe connectors on, it's going to be a problem option for the higer performing packages.

On the other hand the majority of people buying with that option are likely not going to be in a state that spends half the year above 100 degrees or be buying the super GT1000 or whatever road race ready top end package they come up with.

I remember watching an episode of Pinks where two mustangs raced and one had a moon roof. I know it's a different thing but when he launched the whole body twisted enought to pop that thing loose and he lost the glass at half track.

Jim, about that Pinks episode? I saw that one, and it was an old Fox body car. Remember, those frames on the old cars are nowhere near as stiff as the new car, even with subframe connectors. And about the glass roof in anything over 400 lb ft of torque? Just ask Barrett about his PJ Saleen. He has the Glass roof in it and he has had 0 problems. Heck, you can get the glass roof in a Saleen Extreme with over 500 hp.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LBJay
So much for stripes.....
See below...

Originally Posted by 05fordgt
...As for stripes, if anyone is a member of MCA, last months issue of Mustang Times (the club magazine), Stangnet's GT500 was featured. It has the glass roof AND it has stripes on it. CDC put perforated vinyl on the glass roof in white with the blue for the stripes. At 1st glance, it looks like a regular GT500, but upon further inspection, you see its a glassback with stripes, and it looks great. You can see right through the vinyl. See the pics below.
Originally Posted by elcaminoguy
Well I guess the 50's are back with bubble tops and the like.

One thing though, actually two.

1. In places like where I live in AZ, that big piece of roof glass is going to be like a huge magnifying glass in the summer making 110 feel like 150. I hope they add one of those pullover covers like you get with moon roofs these days. It's also going to make 30 some degree mornings like today that much more miserable since glass isn't a great insulator.

2. I can't imagine any vehicle over 400 horse and accompanying torque numbers having this option. It would probably either work itself loose or crack the first time the unibody flexed from the power. Last I checked the factory wasn't including sub-frame connectors.

It's a neat option, just not very practical in some places.

Unsubstantiated rubbish.

Originally Posted by metroplex
It has a built-in roller blind to block the sun, and the glass is designed for proper insulation and protection. If Ford is releasing it on a Mustang, you can bet your farm that they ran it through a slew of tests.

On the other hand, if an aftermarket vendor released a glassback roof for the Stang, you should do your homework because they obviously didn't bother to run tests. A Saleen glassback roof would probably melt, just like their HIDs.
More of the same; see below...
Originally Posted by kevinb120
CDC's testing including extended stress testing and flex testing is some of the most extensive on any aftermarket part in history. It actually strengthens the torsional rigidity of the unibody signifigantly. You can get the 40 page booklet from them if you like. It was even run on the road force simulator, usually reserved for OEM or race testing only. The decorative trim is a different issue though...
Agree with the trim on the CDC; we have discussed this before and agree wholeheartedly...
Originally Posted by elcaminoguy
Tested with what powertrain though. A Stock 4.6 probably won't be a problem.

Like I said, it most likely won't be availble on anything that can generate over 400 Foot pounds of torque. Rear Wheel Drive Unibodies twist and flex no matter how well they're made. Unless the factory starts putting subframe connectors on, it's going to be a problem option for the higer performing packages.

On the other hand the majority of people buying with that option are likely not going to be in a state that spends half the year above 100 degrees or be buying the super GT1000 or whatever road race ready top end package they come up with.

I remember watching an episode of Pinks where two mustangs raced and one had a moon roof. I know it's a different thing but when he launched the whole body twisted enought to pop that thing loose and he lost the glass at half track.

Again...?

Originally Posted by 05fordgt
Jim, about that Pinks episode? I saw that one, and it was an old Fox body car. Remember, those frames on the old cars are nowhere near as stiff as the new car, even with subframe connectors. And about the glass roof in anything over 400 lb ft of torque? Just ask Barrett about his PJ Saleen. He has the Glass roof in it and he has had 0 problems. Heck, you can get the glass roof in a Saleen Extreme with over 500 hp.
I've heard about that guy...

Mine has survived a day at Hallett and a night at Thunder Valley with 0 issues. As ststed previously, the glass adds to the structural rigidity...
http://www.okdhm.com/forums/attachme...8&d=1195574650
http://www.okdhm.com/forums/attachme...9&d=1195574650
http://www.okdhm.com/forums/attachme...7&d=1195574650
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
The Porsche badging can cost a few thousand if you order it on a Cayman S. What starts off as a $50k car easily turns into $80k with modest options.

And after dealing with enough used Porsches, the prices seem like sheer insanity, ugh.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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I would Like to See a Poll.

This is an option I would Get.
This is an option I would not Get.

KC

I am For Anything to Get more People into Stangs. The Joy of an option is it's Optional! I am Curious though How Popular this option will be with The TMS Family!
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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I sure as hell would spring for it. I could take a base black GT this. Hell, give me a pony package V6 with this and I'm happy. Or even that newer V6 package, with a few performance goodies.

Hell, just gimme!! I think this is a great move
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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I wonder if it'll be something the dealership can order and install... if so, I'll probably bite on this one as the sun shade is very much needed in Texas.

-danny
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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The color of the top is always dark because of the tint regardless of the color of the car, right?

If this is the case I'm not so sure I'd like how it would look with colors other than black or alloy.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Well, when you drive around in one with the glass roof, you forget all about the color. We do quite a few up with the CDC ones here and its definitely a cool option. I just think going over $1300 is way too much.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Any pics of vista blue with the glass roof by any chance? Please and thanks.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PACETTR
See below...





Unsubstantiated rubbish.



More of the same; see below...


Agree with the trim on the CDC; we have discussed this before and agree wholeheartedly...


Again...?



I've heard about that guy...

Mine has survived a day at Hallett and a night at Thunder Valley with 0 issues. As ststed previously, the glass adds to the structural rigidity...
http://www.okdhm.com/forums/attachme...8&d=1195574650
http://www.okdhm.com/forums/attachme...9&d=1195574650
http://www.okdhm.com/forums/attachme...7&d=1195574650
Barrett, I was waiting for you to quote my reply. Our facts regarding glass roofs on cars with over 400 lb ft of torque are falling on elcaminoguys' deaf ears. Your car is a proven FACT that there is 0 wrong with the setup. Guess he thinks the thin tin roof is stronger than the inch thick glass setup.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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If I decide to trade in my 05 vert, and passed on a new vert, I'll go with this .

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