Hurricane 5.0 Liter in 2008 Mustangs!!
#22
Ford has been offering this engine in "crate" fashion for a couple of years now. I'm guessing Huricane is just their name for it in production trim.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=6787
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=6787
#24
The Boss engine will reportedly displace 6.2 L, with the ability to exceed 7.0 L in future applications, and produce more than 425 hp (317 kW) and 425 ft·lbf (576 N·m). It will be built at Cleveland Engine in Cleveland, Ohio. The first application will be Ford's F-Series pickup trucks produced at Dearborn Truck. It has been rumored that the Hurricane will retain many of the Modular V8 design cues such as a deep skirt block with cross bolted main caps, oiling system design, and multivalve overhead camshaft valve train arrangement but it will have much wider bore spacing and bearing surfaces.
#26
I think the added weight of a larger block would also diminish the handling of the GT. The GT500 is a heavy beast compared to the GT and I'm sure a lot of that comes from that big iron block.
I'd like to see the current 4.6 offered with forged pistons etc so that we COULD push the car farther if we wanted to.
I'd like to see the current 4.6 offered with forged pistons etc so that we COULD push the car farther if we wanted to.
#29
There is NO 5.0L hurricane/Boss Engine..the two displacements that are talked about most in Rumors are a 5.8L and 6.2L.
The only 5.0L "Boss" Engine is the old OHV 5.0L 302 engine that is out as a crate motor.
The only 5.0L "Boss" Engine is the old OHV 5.0L 302 engine that is out as a crate motor.
#30
I too don't believe that will happen. If anything, the Challenger will be out before the Camaro will be. I read Automotive News every week (the dealer inside paper), and they don't see the Camaro won't be out till late '08 as an '09 at the earliest.
#31
First, smaller displacement Boss V-8's seem very likely given the fact that we now more or less know that the Boss will eventually completely supplant the Mod motor. And really, common sense dictates that this will eventually occur since building one engine family is obviously cheaper than two, and it makes more sense on another level given that one is a more advanced design than the other.
It would be difficult to imagine Ford replacing a 4.6L mod motor with a 5.8L Boss V-8 given the current climate, and it seems pretty unlikely that turbo versions of the new Duratec V-6 could be expected to supplant every small V-8 in the Ford lineup. So to expect a smaller Boss based V-8 than 5.8L isn't simply a good bet, it is obvious given what else we know.
That said, nobody has any clue what size these smaller motors will be, or when they might show up, but Ford has hinted at a production 5.0L comeback for some time so this seems like a good bet if anyone insists on making a prediction.
#32
[quote=jsaylor;795002]It would be difficult to imagine Ford replacing a 4.6L mod motor with a 5.8L Boss V-8 given the current climate[quote]
why not...chevy has used a 5.7 in the camaro z28 for ever.. i see no reason you can't have a main stream 5.8L mustang.
why not...chevy has used a 5.7 in the camaro z28 for ever.. i see no reason you can't have a main stream 5.8L mustang.
#33
Wow, popular topic! Lots of doubters. Ford has the corner on the market right now with the Mustang. If they want to keep it with the debut of the Camaro and Challenger, they better step up the HP a bunch (and they'll still be cheaper than the other two by a lot, even if they price a GT at $30K). So why not? Ford would be stupid to lose market share by being out-horsepowered by 100HP if they have a great engine sitting there ready to go that can compete with the GM and DMX offerings.
#34
Wow, popular topic! Lots of doubters. Ford has the corner on the market right now with the Mustang. If they want to keep it with the debut of the Camaro and Challenger, they better step up the HP a bunch (and they'll still be cheaper than the other two by a lot, even if they price a GT at $30K). So why not? Ford would be stupid to lose market share by being out-horsepowered by 100HP if they have a great engine sitting there ready to go that can compete with the GM and DMX offerings.
And they should put it in the BULLITT first!
#36
Realist, not doubter.
There will NOT be a 5.0L 400hp V8 in 08
The ONLY 5.0 engine is the crate boss.
There may be small boost in HP between now and the redesign+when the camaro comes out.
Until it is out and on the road, there is no reason to show the full hand... so don't expect it to be.
We know the 5.8-6.2L SOHC 2v engines are coming.
We know the redesign of the stang is coming.
We know there will be more HP in time.
Just don't listen to MotorTrend and all will be well...
There will NOT be a 5.0L 400hp V8 in 08
The ONLY 5.0 engine is the crate boss.
There may be small boost in HP between now and the redesign+when the camaro comes out.
Until it is out and on the road, there is no reason to show the full hand... so don't expect it to be.
We know the 5.8-6.2L SOHC 2v engines are coming.
We know the redesign of the stang is coming.
We know there will be more HP in time.
Just don't listen to MotorTrend and all will be well...
#37
Realist, not doubter.
There will NOT be a 5.0L 400hp V8 in 08
The ONLY 5.0 engine is the crate boss.
There may be small boost in HP between now and the redesign+when the camaro comes out.
Until it is out and on the road, there is no reason to show the full hand... so don't expect it to be.
We know the 5.8-6.2L SOHC 2v engines are coming.
We know the redesign of the stang is coming.
We know there will be more HP in time.
Just don't listen to MotorTrend and all will be well...
There will NOT be a 5.0L 400hp V8 in 08
The ONLY 5.0 engine is the crate boss.
There may be small boost in HP between now and the redesign+when the camaro comes out.
Until it is out and on the road, there is no reason to show the full hand... so don't expect it to be.
We know the 5.8-6.2L SOHC 2v engines are coming.
We know the redesign of the stang is coming.
We know there will be more HP in time.
Just don't listen to MotorTrend and all will be well...
I hear a Refresh is coming next year, 2008? Which will include some outside changes as well as some interiors.
I also hear New mustang design, year 2009 or 2012 or 2012. Not sure what that is supposed to look like.
#38
So what is the timeframe you have heard for the new design?
I hear a Refresh is coming next year, 2008? Which will include some outside changes as well as some interiors.
I also hear New mustang design, year 2009 or 2012 or 2012. Not sure what that is supposed to look like.
I hear a Refresh is coming next year, 2008? Which will include some outside changes as well as some interiors.
I also hear New mustang design, year 2009 or 2012 or 2012. Not sure what that is supposed to look like.
- 2008/2009: No changes other than minor feature additions (HID availability - things of that level), and perhaps very minor cosmetic tweaks.
- Significant reskin for 2010 model year (likely to arrive in late 2009) along with availability of more powerful motor in the GT...and the arrival of the BOSS in limited quantities.
- A whole new model for 2012/2013.
Am I missing anything...?
#39
So what is the timeframe you have heard for the new design?
I hear a Refresh is coming next year, 2008? Which will include some outside changes as well as some interiors.
I also hear New mustang design, year 2009 or 2012 or 2012. Not sure what that is supposed to look like.
I hear a Refresh is coming next year, 2008? Which will include some outside changes as well as some interiors.
I also hear New mustang design, year 2009 or 2012 or 2012. Not sure what that is supposed to look like.
And please don't say: motor trend
The articles posted and thrown all around are bupkiss...
The original time frame MAY have been that... but it is not.
2009 was the original reskin/redesign
(*people seem to mix redesign/reskin/ground up)
Mark Fields pushed this back a year.
2010 is when the new sheetmetal comes out, and within a year, new engines (or models... with new engines)
2008 will not have any SIGNIFICANT changes... unless something has drastically changed in the last 6 months.
Also, the MTrend article mentions the 5.0 BOSS engine.
This engine is an older pushrod design, crate motor. It will NOT be in the cars. It is used to get the BOSS engine name out... to prep for the BOSS engine designation that will be out within a year or 2. Starting in the reskined F-150 (08/09)
Again, no real reason for Ford to show its hand right now.
The car is selling well, and the competition hasn't even shown its production versions yet.
I think I've typed the above about 30 times already this month...
#40
Better start just cutting and pasting!
I seriously doubt they will put the upgraded horsepower before the Camaro/Challenger comes out. Why would they need to do that? That would be them showing their hand too soon, give the other guys some time to counter it. It will come out the same time those cars hit the road...in production form.