Well then PLEASE sell me a car!!!! Everyone I have dealt with in Alabama is a snake- I have not exhausted ALL of them yet, but I am getting close. Its aggravating. The only positive experience I had was with GM. Thats sad, because I don't even like GM anymore. [/b][/quote]
I would be happy to sell you a new Mustang. My third car is available and will be scheduled in 3 weeks. You can order it anyway you like and I will give you a fair price.

 

You know, that's an EXCELLENT point... I'll use it and claim it as my own from this moment on, lol.

Really, you are 100% right, there's too many and they are given too much freedom to vary pricing thanks to us- the finicky consumer who thinks "s/he deserves the best deal!" and nothing less.

I do wish cars were sold online (one day people, one day!)

Once that starts, either cars would be priced all over the map --OR-- dealers would freak and standardize the pricing so we would go to a dealer and get the same EXACT deal.

I have to pay full MSRP to own the 05' right away. It's true what you said, I DO feel good about the experience so far, but it's only because I am not trying to bargain (which is where the experience usually goes sour). :nono:

 

It makes me sad to hear about the lousy salesmen who treat customers badly. I spend a great deal of time and effort to help my customers get a good car at a fair deal. I have repeat customers who have purchased 5 cars in the last 3 years because of the way they have been treated.

I also hate being treated like a criminal because I'm a "car salesman" who barely rates above terrorists and lawyers :bang:

believe it or not some of us like our jobs, our customers, and the products we sell...there are some of us that do this as a career because we want to, not because we are too stupid to do anything else (I have a masters degree), and 4 kids to support, these kind of rants wear on you .....

I'll get off my soapbox now and return you to your regularly scheduled programing

 

Hey, don't rag on the fat guys!

Seriously, the salesman who inspired this thread will be selling life insurance in six months, complaining to everyone within ear-shot what a lousy gig auto sales is. And then he'll be trying to sell stereos next.... And he'll always be a loser and he'll never figure out why.

:bang:

 

Lol thats pretty true, actually a poor salesman will get weeded out naturally MUCH faster then even a lousy doctor, let alone a lazy government employee, it can take 25 years for them. Sales is a survival of the fittest, you can't hide a poor performance like you can elsewhere, even your co-workers know everything you are doing(or not).

 

When I bought my Escape I had done some online surfing at the local dealer and had specifically checked the "do not contact me"... Despite this I began getting WEEKLY emails from them saying they do not have a 91 Ford Explorer in stock (*My current car at the time) but they do have these special deals. Each time I emailed them and informed them 1) To remove me from their list 2) To remove me from their list 3) That I had an Explorer and was looking for an Escape or a Mustang and 4) If they did not remove me from their list the would not only lose my business but my families as well. After several weeks I got fed up to the point that I did a whois query and launched an email to the administrative contact for the domain. He said that I could not have received all that many emails, so I promptly forwarded the ones that I had saved all along. Two weeks later I bought my Escape from one of their competitiors, and a month after that my sister bought hers from the same.

 

Not only that, but it can be considered extensive research.

 

You know, that's an EXCELLENT point... I'll use it and claim it as my own from this moment on, lol.

Really, you are 100% right, there's too many and they are given too much freedom to vary pricing thanks to us- the finicky consumer who thinks "s/he deserves the best deal!" and nothing less.

I do wish cars were sold online (one day people, one day!)

Once that starts, either cars would be priced all over the map --OR-- dealers would freak and standardize the pricing so we would go to a dealer and get the same EXACT deal.

I have to pay full MSRP to own the 05' right away. It's true what you said, I DO feel good about the experience so far, but it's only because I am not trying to bargain (which is where the experience usually goes sour). :nono: [/b][/quote]
I wish we could standardize pricing. Then retailers could focus on product information and customer service, instead of "how are we going to prevent that guy we just spent three hours with from buying the car down the street for $10 less". However, anti-trust laws prevent dealers from even discussing our pricing with each other. A group of Mercedes dealers in NY was just sued by the state because they discussed in a dealer meeting creating a one price sales process to eliminate the horrible negotiating experience. I understand the principal behind competition pricing, but the car buying process has morphed into something no one likes. Unfortunately, no one seems to know how to stop it, and the business and franchise laws prevent any major changes.

 

You don't have to standardize pricing...just have the dealers have a set price. Like carmax...you go in to the dealership and know exactly what they are going to sell the car for. no more, no less. no hassle of negotiations. Works out good for customers and salesmen.