The 500 has a 6speed auto and they go into production in a few weeks.

 

:yes: See Galaxie post

 

Superchips just figured out how to rework the very hard to crack computer in the SVT focus. Theyve done wonders with the car's tune over factory settings, theyre actually 'safer' mixtures and much broader power.

 

A while back the guy who runs the corral.net got to have a Q&A with several team Mustang members. The subject of the computer on the 05 came up. Here are the important points from that Q&A.

There is limited adjustment built in. The 05 V8 should respond to minor modifications such as exhaust and intake mods.

Any sort of power adder super or turbo chargers will be beyond the built in adjustment range in the PCM, so they will give limited HP gain.

Ford has NO plans to release the code to anyone.

Team Mustang (at that time) was considering working with Ford Racing to provide modifed PCM code to work with a Ford Racing S/C package (nothing was definate at that time).

The PCM system is similar to what the Lincoln LS and T-bird use. In 5 years, no one has been able to crack the PCM code on those cars.

There are rumors that the HP & Torque on the 4.6 3V ARE limited by the computer. The engine is allegedly capable of more power just by changing the PCM calibration data.

 

Now its on the mustang...
give it time

Gives them incentive to crack the code.
NOTHING...is unhackable

Takers

 

Give it time and the tuners will crack the code and all will be well. Ford didn't give the code to anyone on the SN95 Mustangs and the tuners did just fine.

 

He Said "Nissan Supra"

 

Someone said earlier Ford would probably give it to a few Tuners. He's probably right, also, with it being the Mustang, someone will crack that code. I'm curious to see how that engine would respond to FI, with the correct timing, and fuel curves. B)

 

You can't compare the two PCMs, it's a totally different ball game. With the old Ford system (SN-95) all the engine calibration data is stored in fixed memory locations, so the only cracking that needs to be done is to figure out which memory locations are used and then patch over the data with a chip.

With the new system there is NO place to stick a chip. The calibration data can be storred anywhere depending on the code build. To hack the new system you have to download the code, de-compile the code, find the engine calibration data, write in new data, re-compile the code and upload the ENTIRE program back into the PCM.

Nothing is impossible, given enough time and money, but the complexity of hacking the new PCM system is about 100 times more difficult (read 100 times more costly) to hack. Certain aftermarket companies like Roush & Saleen will probably get access to the code but few others will.

 

a modern internal combustion engine is a finely tuned and designed piece of equipment especially considering the emmissions requirments. the days of leaving horsepower on the table are gone. the competition in the marketplace demands that the product be done correct the first time out of the box...the engine is "maxed out" in terms of design. the internal components are made to deliver the maximum power achieavable. any modifications in terms of making significantly more power will require different cams, pistons, springs, etc...

also, the engine management system is directly linked to the performance of the motor...changing intakes and exhausts can significantly alter the ecu and as was posted default to the limp home mode.

whenever you purchase any speed equipment always ask for a detailed report on the testing done to the engine being modified to make sure the manufacturer is providing the extra power he claims to be delivering...did you ever hear of a snake oil salesman?....jackg 90seville 94k

 

He Said "Nissan Supra" [/b][/quote]
I meant Skyline.

Its the same darn thing. Rice. :notnice:

 

Mabey Ford wants us to buy a computer for engine upgrades from them. If they do, someone will just copy what they do, cheaper. And there is always the stand alone route. Where there is a will, when it comes to hotrodding, there is and will be a way.

 

Kev--that's good news. They also told me the new 5spd auto was real strong and could handle high tq levels.
One guy said he had been tested it on some engines producing 500 ft/lbs of tq. When I asked if this was a new Cobra engine design, he and his friends just smiled.
(Not sure what to make of this--might just be test mules one-off engines used for the transmission development.)

This same guy also said he had been assigned to the driveline devleopment team for the new Mustang, and they had tried many ways to add IRS to the whole model line, but they could never overcome the cost limits for installing it in all models.

They also said the a 7 spd auto was being looked at for future vehicles.

That's all I got, or can remember.

 

He Said "Nissan Supra" [/b][/quote]
He is a LITTLE naive, dont you think

yea a 2000hp supra without complely reworking the engine, duh. someone tell linkoln to stay away from the F&F crowd yikes.

 

Kev--that's good news. They also told me the new 5spd auto was real strong and could handle high tq levels.
One guy said he had been tested it on some engines producing 500 ft/lbs of tq. When I asked if this was a new Cobra engine design, he and his friends just smiled.
(Not sure what to make of this--might just be test mules one-off engines used for the transmission development.)

This same guy also said he had been assigned to the driveline devleopment team for the new Mustang, and they had tried many ways to add IRS to the whole model line, but they could never overcome the cost limits for installing it in all models.

They also said the a 7 spd auto was being looked at for future vehicles.

That's all I got, or can remember. [/b][/quote]
The 5 speed has been proven in much heavier Explorers/Sport tracs/and Rangers with both 4.0 and 4.6's for years now towing 5-7000 lb trailers. Its the same transmission they use(but the 4.6 and the 4.0 ARE different trannies) They wont break in a Mustang.

 

okay, let me elucidate a little about my comment regarding the 4.6 being maxed out: i'm talking strictly about the 4.6 as it comes from the factory...THAT engine is pretty much at it's fullest potential WITHOUT major mods. major mods would be super/turbo charging...cams...pistons...bore /stroke work. these are all major changes to the motor...imo, with the addition of supercharger it IS a different motor. if anyone thinks that there is "easy horsepower" to be found on a moden motor...it's not gonna happen. that's why i said before you plunk down your dough for an exhaust system..have the manufacturer of the system produce some validation that it makes all this extra power...just don't spend the money and think your motor will perform better. jackg 90seville 94k

 

Say what?

The MTXs are different, T5 V6, T3650 V8, but both the V6 and the V8 get the same 5R55S ATX.