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Old 4/1/08, 12:34 PM
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Chilton or Haynes Manual?

Which manual should I buy for my S197? A automotive technician I used to know told me that Haynes manuals are junk. I have one for my 98 S10 and I don't have any problems with it.
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same problem here but the chilton's are cheaper
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Did he say why he thought they were junk? I'm curious. I've been pondering the same choice in S197 manuals as well, so I'm very interested.
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IMO they *both* suck.

I had Chilton manuals for YEARS... they are full of factual errors and unhelpful information. For example, various Chilton manuals from 1979 to 2004 *all* incorrectly stated that the Mustang (Fox, SN95, Edge) had a hydraulic clutch when in fact it was CABLE OPERATED!!!

My other gripes include simplistic instructions.

"Step 1) Remove engine.
Step 2) Fix part.
Step 3) Replace engine.
Step 4) Start and road test."

Surrrrre.... THAT was a help!

Last gripe:

"take everything apart and then use Tool T153q4253q21445 to remove that last bolt."

It would be nice if you would either TELL me where to get the tool ,or SHOW me what it looks like so I can at least TRY to sound intelligent at the parts counter!!

Like I said. They both suck. 'Nuff said.
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Originally Posted by mrkabc
IMO they *both* suck.

I had Chilton manuals for YEARS... they are full of factual errors and unhelpful information. For example, various Chilton manuals from 1979 to 2004 *all* incorrectly stated that the Mustang (Fox, SN95, Edge) had a hydraulic clutch when in fact it was CABLE OPERATED!!!

My other gripes include simplistic instructions.

"Step 1) Remove engine.
Step 2) Fix part.
Step 3) Replace engine.
Step 4) Start and road test."

Surrrrre.... THAT was a help!

Last gripe:

"take everything apart and then use Tool T153q4253q21445 to remove that last bolt."

It would be nice if you would either TELL me where to get the tool ,or SHOW me what it looks like so I can at least TRY to sound intelligent at the parts counter!!

Like I said. They both suck. 'Nuff said.
****, you hit the nail on the head.
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Get the factory manuals from Helms, if they are still available. Not cheap, but an excellent resourse.
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When I was young, stupid and broke, I always bought the Chilton and/or Hanes manuals. Now, I'm no longer young, usually not stupid and generally not broke, so I just buy the factory service manuals instead. They are SO much better than the junk the C/H puts out. It's worth it.

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I always get the OEM manuals , but I usually get any other ones I find too just as another source ...
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I've heard that the Chilton and Haynes for our car are the exact same book with different covers.
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