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Old 12/4/04, 06:18 AM
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Chevy has solved its problem! Announcing the purchase of a fine Yugoslavian car firm by General Motors. And coming soon......The Yugo SS!

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Cobalt SS... Monte Carlo...


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Sounds like Chevrolet needs a new "Marketing Director" ! :scratch:

Better still ......... They have to get something to market first!
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Originally posted by RaGsHoCkEy88@December 3, 2004, 10:07 PM
lol chevy cobalt added to list of american "ricers"

1 neon srt-4
2 chevy cobalt

trying to uncover the 3rd
Saturn ION RedLine
Old 12/4/04, 08:21 AM
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Let's remember that early Camaros and Firebirds looked just like Mustangs. Then GM decided their cars had to look totally different.
That worked out well for them don't you think?
The piece of the market the Monte is getting is the " I own the dealership and I can't have a Mustang in the driveway, take a Monte Carlo and leave me alone." share
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The monte carlo
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HE forgot to mention the AVEO
Old 12/4/04, 09:12 AM
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Although I would sell my soul to the debbil for a 69 Camaro ss......
Blue with white stripes please.......The only good car Chebby ever made.
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just went to the cheby website for the cobolt the ss supercharged puts out 205 hp i would bet money all day long the v6 mustang would kick its butt somebody said it eailer cheby dosent have a clue these days people want biger faster and are not caring much about fuel milege B)
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Originally posted by clintoris@December 3, 2004, 11:50 AM
I have a question, and I know it's off topic, but speaking of NASCAR, since the Ford 500 is replacing the Taurus, I'm assuming that it will be the Ford car for NASCAR?
can anybody speak to this?
Well, first of all, the Five Hundred alone is not the replacement for the Taurus. The Five Hundred and the Fusion are going to fill that niche with two different size cars. My guess is that the Fusion will ultimately end up covering the Taurus's absence, although there is a good chance that Ford may just pull out of NASCAR completely considering the lack of good PR that they are getting out of it. I'm not really sure why the manufacturers are even in NASCAR anymore. The cars are all basically the same now anyway, with all the rules and "parity" .. kinda lame really. Also, with all the restrictions on the cars these days in efforts to "save the teams money," I'm not really sure what "gains" technologically are being made when that is considered. Let's keep in mind these cars are still using carburated power and pushrod power .. not that that is bad, but it's not "wave of the future" .. not innovative at all. I expect the big three to just plain pull out eventually.
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Just looked at a pic of the Cobalt supercharged coupe - geez, and people bust on the Mustang's spoiler??....



What the heck ..... :clown: that thing is kooky....
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Originally posted by RaGsHoCkEy88@December 3, 2004, 8:07 PM
lol chevy cobalt added to list of american "ricers"

1 neon srt-4
2 chevy cobalt

trying to uncover the 3rd
3 - Saturn Ion Redline

Drove one of those, drove a GT, and own a Mazdaspeed Protege.

Redline and Protege, great for getting 30 mpg and looking good, GT for those who truly want speed and style for the money. Doing it all over again the 21k i spent for my protege would have been much better spent on my GT, and id much rather fork over the extra money.
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GM can't admit they have been defeated!!
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They can't admit it at all, though for the 06 Model year the Impala and the Monte Carlo are getting redesigned and SS Models will have the LS1 v8.

The Pontiac Grand Prix GXP with the V8 is coming soon.

Ford hit a homerun with the Mustang, but the Five Hundred is pretty weak offering.

Right now I don't think GM's big goal is to compete with the Mustang, I think they know this and don't care.
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Originally posted by jarednt1@December 6, 2004, 3:03 PM
The Pontiac Grand Prix GXP with the V8 is coming soon.
But GM should of put a 5-spd auto in it rather than the 4-sp.
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Originally posted by holderca1+December 6, 2004, 3:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ December 6, 2004, 3:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jarednt1@December 6, 2004, 3:03 PM
The Pontiac Grand Prix GXP with the V8 is coming soon.
But GM should of put a 5-spd auto in it rather than the 4-sp. [/b][/quote]
Same mistake they made with the GTO. Drinks premium fuel but gets 17/21 MPG. Give me a friggin break. While gas prices mean little to me, they don't mean nothing to me.

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Originally posted by Burke0011@December 6, 2004, 11:22 AM
Just looked at a pic of the Cobalt supercharged coupe - geez, and people bust on the Mustang's spoiler??....



What the heck ..... :clown: that thing is kooky....
Honda called, they want their Civic back!
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Originally posted by USA-Adam+December 6, 2004, 10:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (USA-Adam @ December 6, 2004, 10:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clintoris@December 3, 2004, 11:50 AM
I have a question, and I know it's off topic, but speaking of NASCAR, since the Ford 500 is replacing the Taurus, I'm assuming that it will be the Ford car for NASCAR?
can anybody speak to this?
Well, first of all, the Five Hundred alone is not the replacement for the Taurus. The Five Hundred and the Fusion are going to fill that niche with two different size cars. My guess is that the Fusion will ultimately end up covering the Taurus's absence, although there is a good chance that Ford may just pull out of NASCAR completely considering the lack of good PR that they are getting out of it. I'm not really sure why the manufacturers are even in NASCAR anymore. The cars are all basically the same now anyway, with all the rules and "parity" .. kinda lame really. Also, with all the restrictions on the cars these days in efforts to "save the teams money," I'm not really sure what "gains" technologically are being made when that is considered. Let's keep in mind these cars are still using carburated power and pushrod power .. not that that is bad, but it's not "wave of the future" .. not innovative at all. I expect the big three to just plain pull out eventually. [/b][/quote]
You're crazy. They'll never pull out. NASCAR is the biggest grossing $$ wise of all professional sports. Bigger attendance, larger fan base, and more loyal. I don't see an end in sight for it at all.
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Originally posted by jarednt1@December 6, 2004, 3:03 PM
They can't admit it at all, though for the 06 Model year the Impala and the Monte Carlo are getting redesigned and SS Models will have the LS1 v8.

The Pontiac Grand Prix GXP with the V8 is coming soon.

Ford hit a homerun with the Mustang, but the Five Hundred is pretty weak offering.

Right now I don't think GM's big goal is to compete with the Mustang, I think they know this and don't care.
Not sure I completely agree that the 500 is a "weak" offering. True, the Duratech offers only 200hp in a large sedan, but shortly, the DT 3.5 will be here offering 250hp. That combined with the CVT and the AWD will put it in a class by itself among it's piers from the US. Not sure I can name another full size 250hp v-6 sedan with CVT that's as nice for under 30K.
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Drove the chevys, all of them-as a dare, please. They don't compare.


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