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Old 12/3/04, 11:15 AM
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This thread isn't even worthy of a response...oh wait..crap..i responded.

In that case..

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Old 12/3/04, 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Evil_Capri@December 3, 2004, 12:16 PM
From AutoWeek . .

Who’s afraid of Mustang?

Ford's new Mustang may be getting rave reviews, but a key competitor says it isn't worried. Chevrolet marketing director Jim Campbell says the bow-tie division can cover that segment with the four-cylinder, supercharged Cobalt SS and Monte Carlo. "The Monte Carlo is capturing part of that market," Campbell says, pointing out the coupe's success on the NASCAR circuit.
:scratch: :shock:
What in the holy hade-tee-ees?

Allow me:
Chevy Bad, GM Worse......

The 30,000 automatic & v6 ONLY a good sports car?
And I have seen the Cobalt, it brings to mind the Geo Metro. Neon? Had one! Know what happened? THE SPEEDOMETER QUIT ON ME! So I Bought a GM and the coolant system and FWD dropped out on me......If I live through this- NEVER AGAIN. I will see them in Hades before I spend another cent on a GM product.
Old 12/3/04, 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Evil_Capri@December 3, 2004, 11:16 AM
From AutoWeek . .

Who’s afraid of Mustang?

Ford's new Mustang may be getting rave reviews, but a key competitor says it isn't worried. Chevrolet marketing director Jim Campbell says the bow-tie division can cover that segment with the four-cylinder, supercharged Cobalt SS and Monte Carlo. "The Monte Carlo is capturing part of that market," Campbell says, pointing out the coupe's success on the NASCAR circuit.
:scratch: :shock:
All that is Chevy's sorry excuse for the fact that they have nothing to combat the Mustang in the pony segment.
Old 12/3/04, 11:22 AM
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Like I said. Performance wise ONLY

Category, quality, etc is another theme
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Just when I thought nobody could make a more stupid comment in this world I hear that one. If I was a GM shareholder (not a chance) I'd ask for that guys resignation on the basis of not knowing the market. Those cars don't compete on any level.

Where is the Monte Carlo market???? I should go drive by some mental hospitals and see what's parked out front.
Old 12/3/04, 11:37 AM
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Oh, that reminds me, I really should get that personalized plate I was thinking about. NOGM4ME. You think my car would get vandalized????
Old 12/3/04, 11:46 AM
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Actually, before I got my '05 GT, I cross shopped the Monte Carlo thoroughly. However, GM wasn't offering any $25,000 rebates, so the Mustang was a better value.
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$25K rebates.....that's funny.
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Well I currently have a 2002 Montecarlo SS, and I cay honestly say no it is not in the same class as the Mustang and Chevrolet did just put their foot in their mouths considering my SS with my aftermarket ram air and other minor tweaks will out run the Supercharged SS since they are only gaing 35-45 more HP when GM blows them anyway....The Monte IS a great car FOR ITS CLASS but like I said it is not in the same class But as great as it is I will be parting with her for a 2005/2006 GT...lest I see what the new S/E looks like and is price point wise.

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Old 12/3/04, 11:51 AM
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My point, not the same market class. Thanks for having the honesty to admit it and not just bash.
Old 12/3/04, 11:54 AM
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It sounds like 1964 all over again! Chevy wasn't worried because they had the Corvair.
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I owned a Monte Carlo when they first came back in 94' as 95' model. It turned out to be a big turd, transmission blew apart at 45,000 miles, power steering went out shortly after that, brakes every 25k miles... the list goes on....

Not the only problematic Chevy I've owned either... NEVER AGAIN!
Old 12/3/04, 11:59 AM
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No problem, the facts don't lie how can you compare a FWD 200HP V6 *stock* or even a 240hp V6*stock* sedan to a 300hp V8 RWD Mustang, the V8 wins everytime same for cabin room and MPG. To furthermore bash the car just shows a lack of knollege unless you have driven both cars you shouldn't rank on the latter.

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Old 12/3/04, 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by f e r@December 3, 2004, 12:25 PM
Like I said. Performance wise ONLY

Category, quality, etc is another theme
This reminds me of how Motor Trend pitted a Focus with a cammer motor against the Lamborghini Gallardo a few months ago. Sure the Focus could compete in all of the performance categories but it's certainly not in the same class in any other category.

Same goes here.

Next time you're behind one of those wonderful Monte Carlos take note of the exposed screw heads in the bumper mounted reverse lights. Nice touch Chevy. That just screams of quality! Especially when you look a little higher and see the crooked trunk. Seriously, has GM put a trunk on straight in the past 4 years? :scratch:
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Typical Public Relations BS. Would you expect them to step up to the plate and admit the truth? It's GM's fault that the Mustang is stealing more market share from them. They know they needed the Camaro and a new GTO yesterday in an attempt to counteract Ford.
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Originally posted by f e r+December 3, 2004, 12:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (f e r @ December 3, 2004, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Radman@December 3, 2004, 11:21 AM
Covering the segment with a supercharged 4-banger? Who are they kidding?

Remember, Dodge Neon SRT-4's with only few mods are running head to head with SVT Terminators. They're putting great races. So those SRT-4's vs a 05GT predict the result.
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You're joking, right?
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The only thing this thread is worth is a good laugh, it's obvious chevy has a good sense of humor.
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This is HILARIOUS
Chevy's answer with 4 bangers is an insult to Ford's V8.
As for the Monte Carlo, this is the ugliest/dullest coupe I've ever seen IMO.
But that's just me.
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Originally posted by Evil_Capri@December 3, 2004, 11:16 AM
From AutoWeek . .

Who’s afraid of Mustang?

"The Monte Carlo is capturing part of that market," Campbell says, pointing out the coupe's success on the NASCAR circuit.
Isn't 0.01% "part of the market?"

So maybe he is right.
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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.


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