2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old 8/17/04, 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by matic+August 17, 2004, 5:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (matic @ August 17, 2004, 5:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-WaveMan2k3@August 17, 2004, 4:37 PM
Sorry Matt even the spoiler. Lets not forget. On a race car such as the GT-R it is functional. On a street car it is just riced out dead weight. Ford wouldn't do that because it would tick everyone off royally, sept for 'em ricers.
Not to be confrontational, but can you explain to me how the spoiler magically becomes dead weight and non-functional just by putting it on a street car? It either produces downforce (functional) or doesn't (dead weight), yes? Now, you could argue whether the additional downforce gained on a vehicle travelling at highway speeds is worth the extra drag, but I don't think it approaches the dead weight point. [/b][/quote]
No what I can argue is that that huge hiney wing on the GT-R wont even being to create any down force like other wings unless the car is moving at around 100 miles per hour. Thus, on a street car that will hardly ever hit that kinda speed it is just dead weight like most wings. Basically all a spoiler on a street car is there for is looks. Hense forth dead weight. Now the regular wing on the Mustang is fine for looks and the little bit of 100+ mile per hour driving and it doesn't weight as much that that huge gaudy looking thing bolted to the rear of the GT-R. That's all I was saying. You need to be at high speeds for any real downforce to be excerted on the rear end of a car, by a wing or a ducktail.

Not trying to be an *ss but that's the reason why you don't see giant GT wings on stock vehicles on the street. The only time you see GT wings are on rice cars on the street because they think it looks "cool" to have that huge thing there. When really it isn't "cool" at all. It really isn't cool also for the fact that people bolt GT wings that don't even look somewhat nice to their Honda's and other asian import crap cars. See where I'm going with this?

I for one don't see Ford straping on a GT wing to a Mustang in the near future except for the famed SVT Cobra R's, that we all dream about owning but will never get a chance to own because of cost. The only reason why Ford puts the GT wing on the SVT Cobra R's is because it's a factory built race car. The car can be taken right off hte street and placed on the track and be right at home there. So in fact then it isn't rice and "has a purpose". On SVT Cobra R's it isn't dead weight, all I'm saying is that on a regular street car it is.
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I think its totally lame that someone should try to mock up Eleanor Next thing you know some idiot, will try it on the older Sn95 Mustang
Old 8/17/04, 09:09 PM
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Too funny. Gotta love it when a guy pretends to bash himself.
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Here is one I did. Just a few minor tweaks. Nothing big.
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Now that is one fine lookin car!
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OK WaveMan, I can go with that. I'd be curious to see just how the downforce stacks up at lower speeds. Obviously you won't get the full benifit of that huge wing in 5 o'clock traffic And by the by, I'm not arguing for the wing, I think it'd look rediculous on a street 'Stang.
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Originally posted by matic@August 18, 2004, 12:16 AM
OK WaveMan, I can go with that. I'd be curious to see just how the downforce stacks up at lower speeds. Obviously you won't get the full benifit of that huge wing in 5 o'clock traffic And by the by, I'm not arguing for the wing, I think it'd look rediculous on a street 'Stang.
Yeah I know I was just stating the truth though. Nothing more.
Old 8/18/04, 01:27 AM
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I am truly inlove...but I wonder if it will really look like that. Its a winner in my books
Old 8/18/04, 03:22 AM
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I'd paint it red.

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although my current favorite mustang is the one ford racing made to show off the new cammer engine.
Old 8/18/04, 05:28 PM
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the red version is fantastic, great chop!

starting to look more like a Shelby than Eleanor herself, and that's just fine by me
Old 8/18/04, 05:32 PM
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can anyone make a shelby version???
make the front less busy and stuff
Old 8/18/04, 06:03 PM
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Guys i made a topic for the Cervini Eleanor in the photoshop thread so all the chops of the kit could be posted there
Old 8/18/04, 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by trickey19@August 17, 2004, 2:15 PM
The GTR is able to use side exhaust because of a different floor pan, The GTR only keeps 80% of the prduction body parts.
Not only that, The GTR is not a street legal car, it doesn't have to have mufflers or any of that HP restricting emissions devices. That is the main reason why the GTR is able to have a side exhuast.

All of the after market companies have to make sure that their parts pass certain emissions tests. Specially in CA, I think CA has the toughest emissions laws in the whole country. :notnice:

What do you guys think ?
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I just want the grille and the ducktail. I want a simple 69 mach-like chin spoiler for the front and louvers. Im glad they put my Halibrands on there for me already
Old 8/19/04, 03:12 AM
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I like it - but it is a little busy. Me wonders if all those doo-dads might get a little hard to live with after a while, once the novelty wears off. The forward body cladding is a little too much, IMHO. On the other hand, maybe I'm just getting too old and conservative. :scratch:

I would like to see a cleaner SE model, like a new Bullitt, for example. Or a Mach 1.
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Originally posted by kevinb120@August 18, 2004, 10:43 PM
I just want the grille and the ducktail. I want a simple 69 mach-like chin spoiler for the front and louvers. Im glad they put my Halibrands on there for me already
Is that what those are? Man those are friggin' awesome!! :worship:
Old 8/21/04, 10:12 PM
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Very nice
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best looking 05 eleanor ive seen, chops and all
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I like except for a couple of recommended changes. The front chin spoiler is a little to low and the tiny extra lights have got to go. Love the mirrors. The side exhausts on the GT-R is possible because they moved the gas tank to the trunk as most race cars have.


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