Bad news for future SEs?
#1
It would make sense to me that as we near closer to running out of fossil fuels, that the coming years will not yeild high horsepower SEs with crazy displacements. There just won't be room for 5.4L gas guzzling v8s soon...in 20 years we could all be driving hydrogen-powered stangs (assuming they make production cheaper) What do you all think?
#3
Originally posted by Mach One@September 19, 2004, 10:52 AM
It would make sense to me that as we near closer to running out of fossil fuels, that the coming years will not yeild high horsepower SEs with crazy displacements. There just won't be room for 5.4L gas guzzling v8s soon...in 20 years we could all be driving hydrogen-powered stangs (assuming they make production cheaper) What do you all think?
It would make sense to me that as we near closer to running out of fossil fuels, that the coming years will not yeild high horsepower SEs with crazy displacements. There just won't be room for 5.4L gas guzzling v8s soon...in 20 years we could all be driving hydrogen-powered stangs (assuming they make production cheaper) What do you all think?
#4
I think this is a slippery slope. It depends on who you listen to.
I think the powers that be in this country will do everything possible to keep oil and gas prices and availability here in the US as comfortable as possible, so Americans can continue to live the way we live.
I've got a 2005 GT arriving in a few weeks (?) and this is something I guess I'll think/worry about later. Isn't that what we're all good at doing?
Anyway, we've got billions o' barrels of dino juice locked up in the tar sands in Alberta Canada. All hail Canada - the next oil super power. :worship:
And there's always bio-diesel...
Hmm, 2012 biodiesel Mustang GT.
Looks like a Mustang, but smells like french fries.
I think hydrogen power is about as likely as those flying cars they've been talking about for years..
Linky resources:
http://www.peakoil.net/
http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2005/18.html
http://www.biodiesel.org/
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn33230.htm
I think the powers that be in this country will do everything possible to keep oil and gas prices and availability here in the US as comfortable as possible, so Americans can continue to live the way we live.
I've got a 2005 GT arriving in a few weeks (?) and this is something I guess I'll think/worry about later. Isn't that what we're all good at doing?
Anyway, we've got billions o' barrels of dino juice locked up in the tar sands in Alberta Canada. All hail Canada - the next oil super power. :worship:
And there's always bio-diesel...
Hmm, 2012 biodiesel Mustang GT.
Looks like a Mustang, but smells like french fries.
I think hydrogen power is about as likely as those flying cars they've been talking about for years..
Linky resources:
http://www.peakoil.net/
http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2005/18.html
http://www.biodiesel.org/
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn33230.htm
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ehhh.... take your pick - mad max in 20 or 95 years assuming they dont come up with affordable viable technologies to extract oil from places they cant now or increase the efficiency of what they are doing now.
gasoline is the crap that they skim off the top of crude as they crack it. There are bigger things to worry about if oil runs out, like no more planes, trains, ships or tractors. as well as all the other petroleum derived products that make life fun. Your lights will go out first before your car quits running due to lack of fuel.
The truth of the matter is nobody can accurately predict when crude oil will run out. The guy who came up with the time table developed the theory back in the 70's, so its been almost 30 years since then and new technologies have come along since then allowing even more crude to be recovered. My perosnal theory, when the oceans run dry and large areas of land become sinkholes for inexplicable reasons, I think maybe we've burnt up all the crude oil in the earth.
gasoline is the crap that they skim off the top of crude as they crack it. There are bigger things to worry about if oil runs out, like no more planes, trains, ships or tractors. as well as all the other petroleum derived products that make life fun. Your lights will go out first before your car quits running due to lack of fuel.
The truth of the matter is nobody can accurately predict when crude oil will run out. The guy who came up with the time table developed the theory back in the 70's, so its been almost 30 years since then and new technologies have come along since then allowing even more crude to be recovered. My perosnal theory, when the oceans run dry and large areas of land become sinkholes for inexplicable reasons, I think maybe we've burnt up all the crude oil in the earth.
#6
Well, we wouldn't be running out of fossil fuels if our environmentalists in America let us drill in Alaska or someplace else where it would not impact any people.
I hate the people who say things like, "We need to decrease our dependance on foreign oil so our economy can be safe." And then go a vote against drilling in desolate spots in the US.
I hate the people who say things like, "We need to decrease our dependance on foreign oil so our economy can be safe." And then go a vote against drilling in desolate spots in the US.
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1. Every year the usable oil reserves in the world go UP, not down. We have so much now that it's going to be decades before we run out... and ...
2. There is evidence to suggest that so-called fossil fuels may not actually be fossil fuels
. There are some oil reserves that are inexplicably replenishing themselves, and in a way that makes it essentially impossible to have originated as a dinosaur... and there is chemistry to support methane as a source for oil.
So I wouldn't worry just yet. I'll probably be long dead when this world runs out of oil, if it ever does.
Dave
2. There is evidence to suggest that so-called fossil fuels may not actually be fossil fuels
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So I wouldn't worry just yet. I'll probably be long dead when this world runs out of oil, if it ever does.
Dave
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Maybe we should start looking for other sources of fuel instead of tearing up Alaska. People shouldn't spend their time fighting for or against it they should go do some research and figure out something else to power our vehicles.
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Originally posted by SixtySix@September 19, 2004, 12:29 PM
Ford has already done a gasoline to hydrogen conversion. They've converted a Focus to hydrogen using the existing motor. Saw it on PBS a few weeks ago.
Ford has already done a gasoline to hydrogen conversion. They've converted a Focus to hydrogen using the existing motor. Saw it on PBS a few weeks ago.
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Originally posted by wantan05@September 19, 2004, 12:32 PM
Maybe we should start looking for other sources of fuel instead of tearing up Alaska. People shouldn't spend their time fighting for or against it they should go do some research and figure out something else to power our vehicles.
Maybe we should start looking for other sources of fuel instead of tearing up Alaska. People shouldn't spend their time fighting for or against it they should go do some research and figure out something else to power our vehicles.
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In my view, it is better to "tear up" as you would call it, less than 1% of Alaska, than to depend on foreign oil. Maybe you should go drive a Prius?
And about the gas mileage-I think the V8 gets about 3-4 mpg worse. Luckily, it runs on regular!
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Originally posted by wantan05@September 19, 2004, 12:32 PM
Maybe we should start looking for other sources of fuel instead of tearing up Alaska. People shouldn't spend their time fighting for or against it they should go do some research and figure out something else to power our vehicles.
Maybe we should start looking for other sources of fuel instead of tearing up Alaska. People shouldn't spend their time fighting for or against it they should go do some research and figure out something else to power our vehicles.
And how much research have you done into alternative fuels. Have you given up your car yet?
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Originally posted by bob@September 19, 2004, 11:39 AM
ehhh.... take your pick - mad max in 20 or 95 years assuming they dont come up with affordable viable technologies to extract oil from places they cant now or increase the efficiency of what they are doing now.
gasoline is the crap that they skim off the top of crude as they crack it. There are bigger things to worry about if oil runs out, like no more planes, trains, ships or tractors. as well as all the other petroleum derived products that make life fun. Your lights will go out first before your car quits running due to lack of fuel.
The truth of the matter is nobody can accurately predict when crude oil will run out. The guy who came up with the time table developed the theory back in the 70's, so its been almost 30 years since then and new technologies have come along since then allowing even more crude to be recovered. My perosnal theory, when the oceans run dry and large areas of land become sinkholes for inexplicable reasons, I think maybe we've burnt up all the crude oil in the earth.
ehhh.... take your pick - mad max in 20 or 95 years assuming they dont come up with affordable viable technologies to extract oil from places they cant now or increase the efficiency of what they are doing now.
gasoline is the crap that they skim off the top of crude as they crack it. There are bigger things to worry about if oil runs out, like no more planes, trains, ships or tractors. as well as all the other petroleum derived products that make life fun. Your lights will go out first before your car quits running due to lack of fuel.
The truth of the matter is nobody can accurately predict when crude oil will run out. The guy who came up with the time table developed the theory back in the 70's, so its been almost 30 years since then and new technologies have come along since then allowing even more crude to be recovered. My perosnal theory, when the oceans run dry and large areas of land become sinkholes for inexplicable reasons, I think maybe we've burnt up all the crude oil in the earth.
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Originally posted by montreal ponies+September 19, 2004, 7:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (montreal ponies @ September 19, 2004, 7:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bob@September 19, 2004, 11:39 AM
ehhh.... take your pick - mad max in 20 or 95 years assuming they dont come up with affordable viable technologies to extract oil from places they cant now or increase the efficiency of what they are doing now.
gasoline is the crap that they skim off the top of crude as they crack it. There are bigger things to worry about if oil runs out, like no more planes, trains, ships or tractors. as well as all the other petroleum derived products that make life fun. Your lights will go out first before your car quits running due to lack of fuel.
The truth of the matter is nobody can accurately predict when crude oil will run out. The guy who came up with the time table developed the theory back in the 70's, so its been almost 30 years since then and new technologies have come along since then allowing even more crude to be recovered. My perosnal theory, when the oceans run dry and large areas of land become sinkholes for inexplicable reasons, I think maybe we've burnt up all the crude oil in the earth.
ehhh.... take your pick - mad max in 20 or 95 years assuming they dont come up with affordable viable technologies to extract oil from places they cant now or increase the efficiency of what they are doing now.
gasoline is the crap that they skim off the top of crude as they crack it. There are bigger things to worry about if oil runs out, like no more planes, trains, ships or tractors. as well as all the other petroleum derived products that make life fun. Your lights will go out first before your car quits running due to lack of fuel.
The truth of the matter is nobody can accurately predict when crude oil will run out. The guy who came up with the time table developed the theory back in the 70's, so its been almost 30 years since then and new technologies have come along since then allowing even more crude to be recovered. My perosnal theory, when the oceans run dry and large areas of land become sinkholes for inexplicable reasons, I think maybe we've burnt up all the crude oil in the earth.
I believe your implication to be highly inaccurate.
A few facts:
--The Earth was once a gigantic fireball
--The Earth has had meteors the size of a metropolis pommel it.
--Life existed on this planet before said meteors. It still exists now.
Make no mistake, this is a very hardy planet. It will survive everything we could possibly hurl at it. Life will adapt. Life will prevail. It has already. When another catastrophic event occurs, natural, celestial, or otherwise, there will still be plenty of cockroaches left to trudge onward.
The Earth isn't fragile. WE are.
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Originally posted by V10@September 19, 2004, 7:01 PM
Well, what makes more sense, tear up Alaska, a frozen wasteland that has less than 1 person living in each square mile, or start drilling for oil in Downtown Chicago where the population densisty is about 100,000 people per Square mile?
And how much research have you done into alternative fuels. Have you given up your car yet?
Well, what makes more sense, tear up Alaska, a frozen wasteland that has less than 1 person living in each square mile, or start drilling for oil in Downtown Chicago where the population densisty is about 100,000 people per Square mile?
And how much research have you done into alternative fuels. Have you given up your car yet?
What stood in the way of this plan? Caribou. The ones who inhabit the reserve, but, in all likelihood, wouldn't have found it too difficult to avoid the drills.