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Old May 27, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Stage_3
LOVE IT!!!
Shelby's look the best with those Alcoas. Love that look.
Thanks Tony, and yeah we love them too.
But if the right offer comes along we'll be more than happy to sell them.
She has her eyes on another set, also a Shelby wheel
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Old May 27, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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No change there, she hasn't yet worn out the 305/35/20 Nitto 555R's that we put on at the beginning of last year, so she's gonna continue to run them.
Car will now have 555 G2's on the front and 555R's on the back.
Gotcha, as you have the best of both worlds as in the 555 G2's and 555R's

Originally Posted by Stage_3
LOVE IT!!!
Shelby's look the best with those Alcoas. Love that look.
Totally agree 100% Tony.. I'd also love having those Alcoa's on my GT, but unfortunately they are no longer in production and I refuse to pay $700-$900 per wheel for Shelby Venice re-productions..
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Old May 27, 2017 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Thanks Tony, and yeah we love them too.
But if the right offer comes along we'll be more than happy to sell them.
She has her eyes on another set, also a Shelby wheel
NICE!!!
Which wheel?

Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Totally agree 100% Tony.. I'd also love having those Alcoa's on my GT, but unfortunately they are no longer in production and I refuse to pay $700-$900 per wheel for Shelby Venice re-productions..
Are the re-production wheels not any good Rocky?
I would only put Alcoa wheels on a GT500 anyways. That's a Shelby wheel.
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Old May 27, 2017 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stage_3
NICE!!!
Which wheel?


Are the re-production wheels not any good Rocky?
I would only put Alcoa wheels on a GT500 anyways. That's a Shelby wheel.
Tony, I'm not trying to say that re-production wheels aren't any good.. I just can't see paying between $700-$900 per wheel for Shelby Venice/Alcoa replicas.. However I understand where your coming from regarding the Alcoa wheels not belonging on anything other than a GT500
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Old May 27, 2017 | 07:25 PM
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We'd be only switching from the Alcoas to the Venice wheels.
She has yet to see another wheel that she'd like other than those 2.

As far as the Alcoa replicas, they're definitely not $700-900/wheel ... that's what the originals were going for.
The American Muscle replicas are $280 a piece right now, in the gray color.

All that having been said, it's amazing how awesome these cars look with a set of Alcoas on them


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Old May 27, 2017 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
We'd be only switching from the Alcoas to the Venice wheels.
She has yet to see another wheel that she'd like other than those 2.

As far as the Alcoa replicas, they're definitely not $700-900/wheel ... that's what the originals were going for.
The American Muscle replicas are $280 a piece right now, in the gray color.

All that having been said, it's amazing how awesome these cars look with a set of Alcoas on them


Gabe ! I was referring to the re-production Alcoa wheels offered by Shelby American and Weld Racing known as Shelby Venice forged wheels that indeed are exactly $949.99 each on American Muscle's website..

From my understanding the Venice wheels took the place of the original Alcoa wheels, so I'm not quite understanding how these Venice wheels are the original 07-09 GT500 wheels when it was the Alcoa wheels that were the originals.. At any rate, I'll clarify by stating that what I meant about re-fusing to pay $700-$900.00 for re-production GT500 wheels was directed specifically towards the Venice wheels in which I once again interpreted as being re-production GT500 Alcoa's..

In the meantime, I would also be very interested in knowing the differences between the original GT500 Shelby Alcoa wheels over the Shelby Venice wheels, as they pretty much look exactly identical, at least from what I can tell anyhow

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...opy-of-alcoas/

http://www.americanmuscle.com/shelby...0x95-0514.html

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Old May 28, 2017 | 05:48 AM
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Car looks awesome Gabe. I too love the look of those wheels on the GT500!
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Old May 28, 2017 | 06:09 AM
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Rocky, you're right, the design is very close.
The Alcoas I deem as the originals, once sold new at about $500/wheel, now going for about $1000+ per wheel.
The American Muscle "Shelby-style" wheels are the ones I call reproductions or replicas, and they're now $280/wheel.

The Venice wheels are $950-1k/wheel, depending on front/rear, and they're basically a chiseled-look version of the Alcoas, but they come in slightly wider sizes and with better offsets so the wheels will tuck in a bit more in the back, so you can run a wider tire.
The Alcoa 20x10 wheel has a 37mm offset, which basically means that the max-width tire that can be run is a 285 without fender contact over bumps, especially on lowered cars.
My fiancee's car has 305/35's on them and she has contact over some bumps.
So yeah, she'd love the Venices since the Venice rears are 20x10.5 with a 50mm offset, so the 305 will fit more square and will tuck in a bit more, so that would eliminate the contact.

As far as design, the Alcoa on the left, Venice on the right:

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Old May 28, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Yeah,....that's nasty right there. White and chrome go awesome together!
I do like the Venice wheels as well.
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Old May 28, 2017 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe

The Venice wheels are $950-1k/wheel, depending on front/rear, and they're basically a chiseled-look version of the Alcoas, but they come in slightly wider sizes and with better offsets so the wheels will tuck in a bit more in the back, so you can run a wider tire.
If you're considering the Venice rims, then it might be worth keeping an eye on the Shelby eBay site. There have been a couple of times when Shelby America has screwed around with the pricing and offered complete sets of the Venice rims (F/R) for around $1500 USD.
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Old May 28, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Rocky, you're right, the design is very close.
The Alcoas I deem as the originals, once sold new at about $500/wheel, now going for about $1000+ per wheel.
The American Muscle "Shelby-style" wheels are the ones I call reproductions or replicas, and they're now $280/wheel.

The Venice wheels are $950-1k/wheel, depending on front/rear, and they're basically a chiseled-look version of the Alcoas, but they come in slightly wider sizes and with better offsets so the wheels will tuck in a bit more in the back, so you can run a wider tire.
The Alcoa 20x10 wheel has a 37mm offset, which basically means that the max-width tire that can be run is a 285 without fender contact over bumps, especially on lowered cars.
My fiancee's car has 305/35's on them and she has contact over some bumps.
So yeah, she'd love the Venices since the Venice rears are 20x10.5 with a 50mm offset, so the 305 will fit more square and will tuck in a bit more, so that would eliminate the contact.

As far as design, the Alcoa on the left, Venice on the right:

Gabe, once again I was under the impression that the Venice wheels were also replica's/re-productions of the original Alcoa wheels which was my reason behind posting the comment about not paying $700-$900 for replicas.. Apparently I was mistaken and now stand corrected as the Venice wheels were original replacements for the GT500 Alcoa wheels and not re-productions nor replicas as originally interpreted.. Anyway since you posted images of both wheels, I now see the subtle differences between them as the Venice wheels most definitely are the chiseled look version of the Alcoa's which also offer a wider selection of sizes and offsets just as you mentioned, so I can see exactly why your fiancee is interested in making the switch from the Alcoa's in favor of the Venice wheels.. At any rate, I've also taken a look at the American Muscle Shelby style replica's for $280.00/wheel and although they look really great, I most definitely agree with Tony's post in which he mentioned the Shelby Alcoa/Venice wheels belong specifically only on a Shelby GT500 or GT500 SuperSnake.. Therefore I can certainly understand his reasoning

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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 07:30 AM
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Just took a picture. Car is very dirty :-(
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Maggo
Just took a picture. Car is very dirty :-(


please post more lol
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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this thread makes me miss my 05s
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 11:34 AM
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You could always get yourself another 05
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
You could always get yourself another 05


id rather find an 08-09 bullitt
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSkoundrel
id rather find an 08-09 bullitt
The 08-09 Bullitt is definitely an excellent choice along with the 07-08 Shelby GT
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
The 08-09 Bullitt is definitely an excellent choice along with the 07-08 Shelby GT


if youre just talking the Shelby gt then id rather have the bullitt! but I do find the 07-09? gt500 very attractive
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSkoundrel
if youre just talking the Shelby gt then id rather have the bullitt! but I do find the 07-09? gt500 very attractive
I just mentioned the Shelby GT as one of my choices, but if I had to choose between the Bullitt and Shelby GT, I'd more than likely rather have the 08-09 Bullitt due to being the newer model and also because of the revised heads and better spark plug design over the older 2 piece design that were horrible for breaking inside the heads.. I also find the 07-09 GT500 as very attractive as well, but would rather have a 2011 model only because of the lighter weight 5.4L aluminum block over the previous 07-09 cast iron block..
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Old Jun 13, 2017 | 11:11 PM
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If you really want a 07-09 Shelby I have been watching this one for a little while now. Don't know anything about it, but looks nice in the pics and the mileage is hard to beat.

https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/6146345661.html
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