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Old 8/17/04, 10:39 AM
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Does anybody think that in 2 years we will see basic refining of the new 'stang that will make us think "darn, i should have waited". For example, look at the slight improvments made on the 96 over the 94-95, better tailights(IMO). Same thing in 2001, the smoked headlight covers made a big difference to me, I noticed the 99, 00 headlights would get discolored with time. These changes are usually due to customer feedback and though they may be small, it makes a big difference.

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ps. I know i won't be waiting
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i'm sure there will be some modifications down the years.... just like you said- all along they've redefined their headlights taillights... etc.... besides... if Ford didn't change their vehicles for the better over a couple of years....there wouldnt be Ford anymore.... cuz people would quit buying vehicles.... thats just what i think
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of course the car will get better but you can buy the newer parts at a dealer or aftermarket
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yeah man, if the cars didnt get better over time we'd be in sad shape! running on a 25 yr old chassis was bad. imaging 25 yr old everything!
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I can understand not buying a 04 and waiting for the 05, but we won't know before hand when this new mustang will be "improved" so you could end up waiting forever, if you like the 05 Mustang and can afford it then go for it but personally I would wait to see all the reviews before.

I think we will have this body style for a looong time, I predict betwen 5 to 7 years before any major styling changes.
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It's not about customer feedback. Cars get designed, and then, for the first model year, a lot of stuff gets thrown out again to be put in for later MYs. For example, I bet Ford has painted side mirrors ready. They just won't add it until MY2006 or 2007. Same goes for heated seats, Climate Control, Sunroof. They have to keep the car interesting over the lifetime of the platform. It's always like this.
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...and in 2007 we'll hear buzzings about the new 2010 mustang.

I agree with andre here, deciding between 04 and 05 is a jump but waiting for 07 for any major changes....don't bother. Unless you want an SE badly.
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Not within 2 years, as a refinement process from Ford usually happens every 4-6 years, with SE models mixed in to keep the interest alive.

I would expect special editions within the next few years.

1994-1995 Mustang = 5.0L V8
1996-1998 Mustang = 4.6L SOHC V8 - 215hp - mostly same as 94-95 but with new motor
1999-2004 Mustang = V6 & V8 got more power - restyled exterior with slight interior improvements.

I think Ford will do the same again for the next 10-15 years, unless support for the car falls off.
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Originally posted by conv_stang@August 17, 2004, 11:03 AM
yeah man, if the cars didnt get better over time we'd be in sad shape! running on a 25 yr old chassis was bad. imaging 25 yr old everything!
Up until a year or two ago you could still buy a brand new VW Bettle in Mexico, the same ones our parents were buying in the US from 35+ years ago. VW continued to produce and sell the old Bettle/Bug design, despite the VW Bettle redesign in the mid 1990's.

Big difference is that in Mexico, function is a greater need than form.
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first lets see what the 05 looks like till we see what they will change on it.
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Originally posted by kn7671+August 17, 2004, 4:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kn7671 @ August 17, 2004, 4:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-conv_stang@August 17, 2004, 11:03 AM
yeah man, if the cars didnt get better over time we'd be in sad shape! running on a 25 yr old chassis was bad. imaging 25 yr old everything!
Up until a year or two ago you could still buy a brand new VW Bettle in Mexico, the same ones our parents were buying in the US from 35+ years ago. VW continued to produce and sell the old Bettle/Bug design, despite the VW Bettle redesign in the mid 1990's.

Big difference is that in Mexico, function is a greater need than form. [/b][/quote]
Price was a bigger consideration and it was changed a lot just the ext. had minor mods.
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i dont care about those little things with the car as long as its fast,looks good ands cheap i will buy one
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My impression from when me and Dan met Hau Thai-Tang was that this bodystyle would last 4-5 years before a mid-cycle freshening.

I am sure there will be very minor changes in 2007, perhaps a ducktail spoiler replacing the wing and maybe some other minor things around the car.
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Originally posted by Galaxie@August 17, 2004, 10:26 PM
My impression from when me and Dan met Hau Thai-Tang was that this bodystyle would last 4-5 years before a mid-cycle freshening.

Which would mean a new front and back end or new sheetmetal all over ?

Once you've done the classic mustang styling (retro) where do you go from there? , let's start a new forum on the 2010 mustang... nevermind...
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i hope the only change they do is to use the concept rear tails. now they were sweet.
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Originally posted by 69Mach1@August 17, 2004, 11:40 PM
i hope the only change they do is to use the concept rear tails. now they were sweet.
I bet they reserve the concept rear tails for a Mercury Cougar, if FordMoCo decides to do such a thing.
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Originally posted by André+August 17, 2004, 11:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (André @ August 17, 2004, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Galaxie@August 17, 2004, 10:26 PM
My impression from when me and Dan met Hau Thai-Tang was that this bodystyle would last 4-5 years before a mid-cycle freshening.

Which would mean a new front and back end or new sheetmetal all over ?

Once you've done the classic mustang styling (retro) where do you go from there? , let's start a new forum on the 2010 mustang... nevermind... [/b][/quote]
If it follows the same pattern as the last 11 model years, The mustang should get new sheetmetal after about 5 model years, and maybe some suspension improvements and tweaking of the chassis.
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