Shea

I realize that thus far we can only speculate, but how do you think the 05 will stack up against the Z-28s and Trans Ams from the last few years?

Specifically, I'm speaking both of straight line acceleration and handling.

My 86 GT with a few mods got spanked by a Z-28. Then again I think that my GT was only 225 hp stock, so it was probably somewhere near 250 with my mods.

I've been told that the Trans Ams handle pretty sweet with the WS6 package. And that is a longer car than the 05, so I would expect them to handle well, but supposedly the 05's suspension is a huge improvement over the 04.

Whaddya think?

kevinb120

dont forget how much of the WS6s car length is overhang, they are HUGE. I would say the stang probably edges it out on handling, will still loose a drag race.

Avalanche

2002 Camero Z28
Curb Weight 3,574 lbs.
Engine 5.7 Liter LS1
310 @ 5200 RPM
340 @ 4000 RPM
6200 RPM
Transmission 6-Speed Manual with OverDrive

Performance
0-60 mph 5.3 s
1/4 Mile 14.0 s
Top Speed 155 mph


could be close

bob

Hmmm.... we'll see, still gotta respect that rascal, the LS1 is getting some good attention from the aftermarket now'a days, and these motors respond super well to basic mods (cam, heads, intake, exhaust, etc.)

most impressive thing I've seen is right here

www.airflowresearch.com/

check out the LS1 stuff and the dyno tests. the engine flat out freak'n rocks. However I've also seen it conjectured that the DC hemi would be even better?? To bad DC and GM dont really have anything worthwhile to put these engines in. (read no camaro or cuda)

Then again, we've yet to see anybody tear into a 3v 4.6 either.

conv_stang

yeah, nothing against them. i guess my parents just raised me right! LOL. the main basic thing i didnt like about the Z and T/A are the ride heights and the hump in the passenger floor. my friend has a 93. is horrid. and they feel like they are a tank, and really drive like one too. i think the 05 will handedly run around the F bodies on the track. engine performance will have to wait and see the actual numbers. AFR makes some really nice heads. cant wait till they make some aftermarket head for the MOD motors

Purple Hayz

Where are you getting those specs (and that spelling.....it's C-A-M-A-R-O...don't you own a Chevy? )

The LS1 in the Z-28/TA is the same motor that sits in the (C5) vette. It's deliberately underrated at 310 hp. Most make close to that at the rear wheels (around 350 crank).

The Z-28/Formula/TA is not a 14 second car. The worst even the car mags would do was high 13's, and most properly driven LS1 f-bodies will do mid 13s bone stock. I'm with KevinB, the new Stang should outhandle the f-bodies (they were pretty sloppy.....platform was almost as dated as fox), though I believe they will run neck in neck in a drag race. The 99-04 ran within 3/10 to 60mph and lost by about half a second in the quarter mile. 40 extra ponies (minimum) and better power delivery should close the gap.

for now we wait and see

TrueBlueCajun

Supposedly the Mach 1s can hang with the LS1s, so if rumors are true about the '05 = Mach 1 then the '05 should be able to hang pretty well also.

ChromeYellowGT

LS1 F-bodies weigh around 3400lbs and put out 290-320hp at the wheels (depending on year and trans). If the new GT is really putting out 290hp at the wheels like the rumors say, it'll be close. However, if the factory rating of 300hp at the flywheel is correct, the new GT will still be a whole heck of a lot slower.

Dan

The speculation is killing me too guys. But don't worry, magazine tests are just around the corner......and then they'll be personal Test Drives.

conv_stang

woohoo test it like you stole it! HAHAHA think the dealer would get mad if i brought my g-tech device and stuck it on the dash for my test drive????

Avalanche

Where are you getting those specs (and that spelling.....it's C-A-M-A-R-O...don't you own a Chevy? )

The LS1 in the Z-28/TA is the same motor that sits in the (C5) vette. It's deliberately underrated at 310 hp. Most make close to that at the rear wheels (around 350 crank).

The Z-28/Formula/TA is not a 14 second car. The worst even the car mags would do was high 13's, and most properly driven LS1 f-bodies will do mid 13s bone stock. I'm with KevinB, the new Stang should outhandle the f-bodies (they were pretty sloppy.....platform was almost as dated as fox), though I believe they will run neck in neck in a drag race. The 99-04 ran within 3/10 to 60mph and lost by about half a second in the quarter mile. 40 extra ponies (minimum) and better power delivery should close the gap.

for now we wait and see [/b][/quote]
http://www.engine-power.com/chevy/camaro_z28.html

it's called a typo

kevinb120

Where are you getting those specs (and that spelling.....it's C-A-M-A-R-O...don't you own a Chevy? )

The LS1 in the Z-28/TA is the same motor that sits in the (C5) vette. It's deliberately underrated at 310 hp. Most make close to that at the rear wheels (around 350 crank).

The Z-28/Formula/TA is not a 14 second car. The worst even the car mags would do was high 13's, and most properly driven LS1 f-bodies will do mid 13s bone stock. I'm with KevinB, the new Stang should outhandle the f-bodies (they were pretty sloppy.....platform was almost as dated as fox), though I believe they will run neck in neck in a drag race. The 99-04 ran within 3/10 to 60mph and lost by about half a second in the quarter mile. 40 extra ponies (minimum) and better power delivery should close the gap.

for now we wait and see [/b][/quote]
yea, but F-bodies are still just fast moving junk on wheels.

Purple Hayz

yea, but F-bodies are still just fast moving junk on wheels. [/b][/quote]
You mean "were" fast moving junk on wheels

Mustang....40 years and still kickin. F-body....RIP

Andy Haynes

Where are you getting those specs (and that spelling.....it's C-A-M-A-R-O...don't you own a Chevy? )

The LS1 in the Z-28/TA is the same motor that sits in the (C5) vette. It's deliberately underrated at 310 hp. Most make close to that at the rear wheels (around 350 crank).
The Z-28/Formula/TA is not a 14 second car. The worst even the car mags would do was high 13's, and most properly driven LS1 f-bodies will do mid 13s bone stock. I'm with KevinB, the new Stang should outhandle the f-bodies (they were pretty sloppy.....platform was almost as dated as fox), though I believe they will run neck in neck in a drag race. The 99-04 ran within 3/10 to 60mph and lost by about half a second in the quarter mile. 40 extra ponies (minimum) and better power delivery should close the gap.

for now we wait and see [/quote]
Maybe I just had a freak car but my 00gt went 13.80s in stock trim on stock tires and with a gear, exhaust,chip,mass air, and throttle body went 13.50's on stock tires. Not sure where the 3/10's that your speaking of is coming from.

Purple Hayz

Congrats B) "Maybe" you have a ringer. If every 99-04 ran 13.8's stock then we wouldnt' even need to worry about the new and improved 05 now would we? My comments were reflective of the AVERAGE performance differential b/w the two vehicles. Where do my comments "come from?" Well let me see....a.)observed track times b.)magazine stats and c.) countless hours of kill (and killed) stories on LS1.com and various stang sites. Pretty much a unanimous worldwide concensus of what happens when a stock 99-04 GT squares off against a stock LS1 f-body in a drag race

Clearly, either your car or your driving skill (or both) are exceptional. It's the difference between outliers and averages. Men are generally taller than women. Doesn't mean there are not some women who are taller than some men. The centers of the distributions vary, but they will overlap in the tails. Same case for the typical 99-04 GT vs. LS1 f-body drag race, though something tells me you should know this already, and are simply drawing attention to yourself. Either way, those are some seriously quick times (assuming they are true), so you do get props

bob

14 flat with my 02, thats with a 1/4 tank of fuel and my fat 300 pound butt.

Although there was this guy in Canada, went by the name of Lizard King on the mustangworls site that piloted a 00GT to 13.7's bone stock.

Andy Haynes

Not trying to pull any attention to myself. Those are real #'s. Now I was also talking about z28's not ss cars. Although my friend did have a 01ss that wouldnt fall out of a tree. Like I said though maybe it was just a freak car not sure. I do know that I never got walked by any of them until after the 1/4 though. I would think the new 05's wouldnt have any probs hanging with them.