The Plunge, Supercharger time.
#1
I plan on keeping my 97 GT and getting a few of the minor issues worked out on it right when I get back, that way I know I'll keep it.
I want to get a Supercharger for my car. Which one is the most reliable and has the best bang for the buck. I don't care about ease of installation since I'll have a performance shop do the install. Oh, and I figure the $2500-$4000 grand is worth it, so price isn't a major issue, that's why I work so hard, to have fun spending my money.
I want to get a Supercharger for my car. Which one is the most reliable and has the best bang for the buck. I don't care about ease of installation since I'll have a performance shop do the install. Oh, and I figure the $2500-$4000 grand is worth it, so price isn't a major issue, that's why I work so hard, to have fun spending my money.
#2
If I were putting a setup on a 01-03 gt, I would personally go with a ATI Procharger P1SC kit with the 3 core intercooler. Since this is a blow through setup, you'll need a MAF like the pro-m Univer or I think SCT is coming out with one of their own (which will be good). Also I would run the cobra fuel pump/tank setup and 42# injectors. This will give ya a really good setup for fuel and make your tune easy. I'd then talk to some tuners using the SCT software such as doug904 on this board. Pushing 10psi through this setup should net you 400rwhp or more.
If you want to go a lil lower, go with teh same fuel pumps, same injectors and go with a Vortech s-trim pushing 8-10psi. This wont be intercooled, but you can get it with or without the air-to-water aftercooler. Without you are probably gonna be around 360rwhp or so on a safe tune and with probably 380+.
Either way, make sure you get it tuned by someone who knows what they are doing.
Yes, i've done some research since I had a procharger for my cobra, just never installed it
If you want to go a lil lower, go with teh same fuel pumps, same injectors and go with a Vortech s-trim pushing 8-10psi. This wont be intercooled, but you can get it with or without the air-to-water aftercooler. Without you are probably gonna be around 360rwhp or so on a safe tune and with probably 380+.
Either way, make sure you get it tuned by someone who knows what they are doing.
Yes, i've done some research since I had a procharger for my cobra, just never installed it
#5
I'm not an expert but I've heard Kenne Bell SC's are the best.
#6
a turbo takes time to spool up though, and also gets very hot, and is more beneficial for top end/speed power. a supercharger, being driven by pullies, does actually take power to make power but it is instant power and if you get one like a kenne bell they can make full boost even at idle. i've heard nothing but good things about kenne bell and my dad recently bought one. check it out at www.kennebell.net
#7
Originally posted by freebass55@September 11, 2004, 1:43 PM
I'm not an expert but I've heard Kenne Bell SC's are the best.
I'm not an expert but I've heard Kenne Bell SC's are the best.
#8
Originally posted by HotRodLincoln+September 11, 2004, 12:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HotRodLincoln @ September 11, 2004, 12:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-freebass55@September 11, 2004, 1:43 PM
I'm not an expert but I've heard Kenne Bell SC's are the best.
I'm not an expert but I've heard Kenne Bell SC's are the best.
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#9
''a turbo takes time to spool up though, and also gets very hot'' i think a mustang V8 could spool a turbo in like 2 seconds.
2000hp street car anyone?
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2000hp street car anyone?
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#13
I say go with a vortech s-trim on your 97. AFBLUE on this board has one on his and puts out very good numbers. I would recommend the KB, but they dont make em for 96-98 SOHC's. Shame though.
Turbo is defintely the most effecient way to go, but on the note of spool up times and turbo lag, today's turbos are no where near as slow as older ones from 10-15 years ago. A v8 motor can spin one (or two) up in a matter of seconds and have you at full boost by 3000 rpm as long as the turbo is the right size for the application. Now if you try and run a 106mm tubro on a 97gt, forget it, not enough power to spin that big boy effeciently.
Turbo is defintely the most effecient way to go, but on the note of spool up times and turbo lag, today's turbos are no where near as slow as older ones from 10-15 years ago. A v8 motor can spin one (or two) up in a matter of seconds and have you at full boost by 3000 rpm as long as the turbo is the right size for the application. Now if you try and run a 106mm tubro on a 97gt, forget it, not enough power to spin that big boy effeciently.
#15
Originally posted by mr-mstng+September 11, 2004, 8:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr-mstng @ September 11, 2004, 8:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Trueblue@September 11, 2004, 5:10 PM
No KB's for '97 GT's.
No KB's for '97 GT's.
better flowing heads/cams.
#16
Originally posted by scothew+September 11, 2004, 8:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scothew @ September 11, 2004, 8:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
What is the difference between a 97 and 01 (enginewise)? :scratch:
Originally posted by mr-mstng@September 11, 2004, 8:26 PM
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@September 11, 2004, 5:10 PM
No KB's for '97 GT's.
No KB's for '97 GT's.
What is the difference between a 97 and 01 (enginewise)? :scratch:
Shhhh, you're gonna give my car a complex.
#17
sorry man, I only speak the truth
#18
Originally posted by scothew+September 11, 2004, 9:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (scothew @ September 11, 2004, 9:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
What is the difference between a 97 and 01 (enginewise)? :scratch:
Originally posted by mr-mstng@September 11, 2004, 8:26 PM
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@September 11, 2004, 5:10 PM
No KB's for '97 GT's.
No KB's for '97 GT's.
What is the difference between a 97 and 01 (enginewise)? :scratch:
Is it becuause the heads are different that a 97 won't accept a KB? :scratch:
#19
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I see a good number of common misconceptions about turbo kits. I can tell you that a turbo is no more difficult to install, tune, or maintain than a supercharger kit. Now with that said lets get on to opinions:
Depending on your application is how you should choose a power adder. If you are going for all out power, turbo is the only way to go. As said above turbo technology has advanced greatly. Most come into full boost by 2500-3000rpm, a lot sooner than any centrifigal supercharger. Also when you start pricing kits, a turbo will be about the same price as a *fully optioned* supercharger kit. I encourage you to look at some just for GP.
http://www.proturbokits.com
http://www.turbochargedpower.com/
Now on Superchargers, everyone hit them on the head above, except for one point. HEAT! That is the main problem with Kenne Belle's because you cannot cool a air charge that goes directly into the head. Anyone who is serious about their car will intercool a power adder. It allows you to make more power safer.
All of the kits mentioned above are excellent. Vortech, Paxton, Procharger, all are quality with some hitches:
Vortech: SQ Trim is stealthy quite, but their water-air cooler is big, bulky and not optimal for a daily driver IMO.
Paxton: They have one of the best intercoolers for a Mustang, ever. Plus the Novi series head units are very efficent.
Procharger: Excellent head unit for low end torque production, but their kits have always had packaging issues. Head units also aquire the dreaded "leak" which requires it to be rebuilt.
I HIGHLY recommend you get an idea of what exactly you want out of your car, then make a decision based on research of each option. Boost is nothing like you've ever felt before!
Depending on your application is how you should choose a power adder. If you are going for all out power, turbo is the only way to go. As said above turbo technology has advanced greatly. Most come into full boost by 2500-3000rpm, a lot sooner than any centrifigal supercharger. Also when you start pricing kits, a turbo will be about the same price as a *fully optioned* supercharger kit. I encourage you to look at some just for GP.
http://www.proturbokits.com
http://www.turbochargedpower.com/
Now on Superchargers, everyone hit them on the head above, except for one point. HEAT! That is the main problem with Kenne Belle's because you cannot cool a air charge that goes directly into the head. Anyone who is serious about their car will intercool a power adder. It allows you to make more power safer.
All of the kits mentioned above are excellent. Vortech, Paxton, Procharger, all are quality with some hitches:
Vortech: SQ Trim is stealthy quite, but their water-air cooler is big, bulky and not optimal for a daily driver IMO.
Paxton: They have one of the best intercoolers for a Mustang, ever. Plus the Novi series head units are very efficent.
Procharger: Excellent head unit for low end torque production, but their kits have always had packaging issues. Head units also aquire the dreaded "leak" which requires it to be rebuilt.
I HIGHLY recommend you get an idea of what exactly you want out of your car, then make a decision based on research of each option. Boost is nothing like you've ever felt before!