cams or juice ?
5/29/12 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cpotts13
Cams, but good luck getting it all done for less than $1000, even doing the work your self it will most likely cost more.
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
5/29/12 | 09:26 PM
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Just cams won't do you any good , you'll most likely lose power, if your gonna go cams you'll need heads and intake to match, plus upgrade mass air and injectors , just for those parts your looking $2000 plus......
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
Nitrous is fine as long as you arent stupid with it. If you want it just for the track, then there wont be much of a problem.
His goals are getting into the 12's and I dont know if a 100 shot will do that, but he wont see any ill effects on the motor, unless he's stupid with it.
5/29/12 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999Pony
As long as he doesnt go crazy on running the nitrous on the street (which would cost a crap load of money to do) hes not going to do any damage to the motor.
Nitrous is fine as long as you arent stupid with it. If you want it just for the track, then there wont be much of a problem.
His goals are getting into the 12's and I dont know if a 100 shot will do that, but he wont see any ill effects on the motor, unless he's stupid with it.
5/29/12 | 09:35 PM
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Yea. Can you run more then say 150 shot without any risk, no, but a 75-100 shot, as long as you dont overdue using it, there wont be a problem.
Its the same with any mod. If you build the hell out of your motor, does that mean you can run it to read-line every time you shift with out consequence, hell no. The same goes for nitrous. Use it responsibly and there shouldnt be any problems.
Its the same with any mod. If you build the hell out of your motor, does that mean you can run it to read-line every time you shift with out consequence, hell no. The same goes for nitrous. Use it responsibly and there shouldnt be any problems.
5/30/12 | 05:40 AM
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Just cams won't do you any good , you'll most likely lose power, if your gonna go cams you'll need heads and intake to match, plus upgrade mass air and injectors , just for those parts your looking $2000 plus......
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
5/30/12 | 07:42 AM
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I'm not a nitrous fan. while cams will not get you the gains you want like the others stated save up a few more bucks and do the H/C/I & tune and it will get you there.
there is a solid bonus to doing the H/C/I..constant reliable HP that is payed for. Nitrous is temporary HP and cost money to refill, so it will be a constant bill. when it is empty or off the hp isn't there. the obvious cons to the motor and support stuff needed ie purge, warmer, etc.
there is a solid bonus to doing the H/C/I..constant reliable HP that is payed for. Nitrous is temporary HP and cost money to refill, so it will be a constant bill. when it is empty or off the hp isn't there. the obvious cons to the motor and support stuff needed ie purge, warmer, etc.
5/31/12 | 12:00 PM
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100 shot is safe. AM will actually do a tune for a 100 shot if you only have cai, exhaust, intake.. If your gunna get nitrous i would really look into getting a window switch. Spray at low and high rpms can hurt the engine.
5/31/12 | 05:06 PM
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I'd say do Heads & Cams. Like everyone has said, power will always be there and it's the most reliable setup.
Here's two videos of my buddys 03' GT. First video has Mod's in description. Second video he had added bassani mid length headers, Trickflow heads, front suspension work, MT 15' Drags and skinnies. This is also on the stock plastic lower intake!
Here's two videos of my buddys 03' GT. First video has Mod's in description. Second video he had added bassani mid length headers, Trickflow heads, front suspension work, MT 15' Drags and skinnies. This is also on the stock plastic lower intake!
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6/1/12 | 07:25 PM
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Thanks guys ! but after talking to a few professional tuners a all motor 2v is a joke for the money you spend and nitrous is very expensive over time but safe when used by someone who knows how nitrous works . I've came to the conclusion that superchargering is the most cost efficient way to make a 2v move with out breaking the bank
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6/1/12 | 07:59 PM
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Thanks guys ! but after talking to a few professional tuners a all motor 2v is a joke for the money you spend and nitrous is very expensive over time but safe when used by someone who knows how nitrous works . I've came to the conclusion that superchargering is the most cost efficient way to make a 2v move with out breaking the bank
6/3/12 | 01:42 AM
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Just cams won't do you any good , you'll most likely lose power, if your gonna go cams you'll need heads and intake to match, plus upgrade mass air and injectors , just for those parts your looking $2000 plus......
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
If you go nitrous, you'll need the nitrous kit plus upgrade fuel system. Also should have forged internals if not you'll blow the pistons ....
IMO save up an extra $1000-$1500 and do the heads, cam, and intake at once but you'll other supporting mods
YOu can make 300rwhp on just cams and bolt ons. Its been done by many. Ive done 302rwhp on stock exhaust manifolds and stock PI intake.
Also you will not 'blow up' the pistons if you run nitrous. Actually the pistons will hold up better than the rods, as long as your tune is good. I know a guy thats been running a 150 shot since 2005, still on the stock longblock, running deep 11s.
I say, slap in the cams, degree them, and have a good time. And if you know what you are doing, you can have it done for the price of cams, oil and some RTV...
6/3/12 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverEnuff
How will you lose power just doing cams? More lift/duration helps the engine pull in more air, and pulling in more air=more power the last I checked. The ONLY way that statement would true that he won't get more power just doing cams is IF the heads were maxed out with the stock cams, which I can tell you they are not. Same goes with the intake.
YOu can make 300rwhp on just cams and bolt ons. Its been done by many. Ive done 302rwhp on stock exhaust manifolds and stock PI intake.
Also you will not 'blow up' the pistons if you run nitrous. Actually the pistons will hold up better than the rods, as long as your tune is good. I know a guy thats been running a 150 shot since 2005, still on the stock longblock, running deep 11s.
I say, slap in the cams, degree them, and have a good time. And if you know what you are doing, you can have it done for the price of cams, oil and some RTV...
When it comes to nitrous my brother had 100 shot in his 04 GT , and after 3 weeks motor was dead!!!
6/3/12 | 02:54 PM
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How will you lose power just doing cams? More lift/duration helps the engine pull in more air, and pulling in more air=more power the last I checked. The ONLY way that statement would true that he won't get more power just doing cams is IF the heads were maxed out with the stock cams, which I can tell you they are not. Same goes with the intake.
YOu can make 300rwhp on just cams and bolt ons. Its been done by many. Ive done 302rwhp on stock exhaust manifolds and stock PI intake.
Also you will not 'blow up' the pistons if you run nitrous. Actually the pistons will hold up better than the rods, as long as your tune is good. I know a guy thats been running a 150 shot since 2005, still on the stock longblock, running deep 11s.
I say, slap in the cams, degree them, and have a good time. And if you know what you are doing, you can have it done for the price of cams, oil and some RTV...
YOu can make 300rwhp on just cams and bolt ons. Its been done by many. Ive done 302rwhp on stock exhaust manifolds and stock PI intake.
Also you will not 'blow up' the pistons if you run nitrous. Actually the pistons will hold up better than the rods, as long as your tune is good. I know a guy thats been running a 150 shot since 2005, still on the stock longblock, running deep 11s.
I say, slap in the cams, degree them, and have a good time. And if you know what you are doing, you can have it done for the price of cams, oil and some RTV...