Obviously related to the automotive elite who deride anything that doesn't have a miniumum of 4 valves per cylinder and variable duration/lift/length, etc.

Sorta like the twit that wrote in to C&D about the 400 horse caddy, saying that one of the problems with the car was a 400 hp pushrod engine that lacked the sophistication of a DOHC 4 vpc engine.

News flash for that crowd, 400 hp don't come easy with 1 cam and 2 valves with 349 cubic inches. it takes some pretty trick airflow management to achieve this in an emmisions legal factory warranty backed V8 designed to last 100,000+ miles without a tune up.

Granted its brand X, but for something that supposedly was obsolete at the time of its invention, the pushrod engine has faired remarkably well.

Further evidence of the basically good architecture of this design. AFR has stock port volume LS1 heads flowing 300 cfm. As a comparison the cobra 4 valve heads flow 260 cfm. Again granted this is aftermarket compared to stock, but on paper the cobra head is supposedly vastly superior to the LS1 head because of its 4 valve layout.

 

I actually like the pushrod engines more than the OHC v8's. But in defenses of OHC engines, show me a 4 cyl or a 6 cyl with oushrods that makes more power than a comparable OHC.

Why the heck am I arguing against the ls1? it's one of my favorite engines, I'm so confused...

 

The guy is obviously a punk who enjoys driving the smooth engines of German cars that succeed in isolating you from the road while costing three times as much as the Mustang. Thats not what I'm looking for. I need an economical car that is willing to attack the road and obey my commands. Yeah, the 4.6 is weak for its size, but it still is a good engine. It throws out a lot of torque, and its got sufficiant horsepower. It keeps up with the stock LT-1's out of the 93-97 F bodies. I've heard people complain that the foreign V-6 companies are able to almost match the power and performance with 2 less cylinders, but they cost more and they don't sound good. To me the Mustang is a flashback. It is a car that ran with the Chargers, Barracudas, and Trans Ams of years gone by. It beat the system.
I want to hear the engine rumble and roar, it's music to my ears. Nothing against the English as a whole, but this guy would get punched in his buck tooth if he had a conversation like that with me. Rubbish, what a stupid word.

 

OHC engines biggest advantage over a pushrod engine is port alignment, no pushrods to snake around.

pushrod engines tend to package better and also tend to be more mechanically efficient due to less moving parts. Heck at one time buicks one gallon bent six was the most mechanicaly effiecent engine in production, it even got mercedes attention for a bit.

but anyways, I've noticed something when it comes to automotive magazines, tv programs, ect. They all seem to push for something akin to a Ferrarri Enzo, even if its a cavalier. It seems to me that unless a car is employing F1 future think, the car ranks right down there with a chevette or geo metro.

Kinda gets my underwear knotted up when I read car reviews. I can't wait to see the first test drive of new GT. Right off I can see this line.

"While Ford has certainly produced the best handling mustang to date, we find it irksome that the all new mustang is still saddled with a live axle and strut front suspenison. We certainly hope to see a fully indepenent all wheel drive chassis in america's favorite pony car's future."

feh!

 

An AWD Mustang doesn't interest me at all. With the exception of the Subaru/Mitsubishi rally road cars, AWD doesn't interest me much period.

 

an AWD Mustang doesn't interest me either. If I am going AWD it would probably be in a mini-suv type vehicle for days the weather isn't so nice. Other then that, give me RWD all day!

 

After driving my sister's Focus, I would be the first to admit, the Mustang should go Fully Independent Suspenion. The Handling is so much better, as for all wheel drive.....hmmmm.......interesting.

 

Save your pennies for a cobra!

I like my mustangs to have more in common with a truck than most cars (read V8 power and a knuckle dragging slack jawed troglodtitic live axle).

and as for AWD, the day they do that to a mustang it stops being a mustang. I am quite satisfied with ABS and traction control.

However I suppose its only a matter of time. Once the old guard passes or our collective butts get to soft IRS will become a mainstay.

Or heavens forbid, those GM guys give up the ghost and jump ship. For some reason they aren't into live axles.

 

Call me mechanically retarded.........What is a live axle, and how does it compare to BMW's RWD?

Thanks (goes into the corner with his dunces cap )

 

A live axle is simply an axle, meaning no IRS. BMW cars are Rear Wheel Drive, but do not have a solid axle, the have an IRS (Independent Rear Suspension).

 

Ahhhhhhh, I see. That might explain why the back end jumps around so much on corners......

Thanks Mr-Mstng

 

Yup, on smooth roads, there is little difference between a live axle and IRS. On a washing board the IRS will win out, but at least here in southeastern VA the roads aren't to bad (not saying the are real good either).

 

Where I live there aren't a lot of smooth roads. I have little complaint about the live axle on the freeway, but I'd sure like IRS on our chunky two lane country roads with plenty of curves and bumps in them.

My Alfa Spider had a live axle and it was great. Maybe the new Mustang will be also.

Back to the video. I'm not a rabid Mustang fan, just a car guy, and I thought that was probably the most biased review I've seen. 9 MPG? The engine is rubbish? This is coming from a guy whose country swore by Lucas electrics. For those of you not old enough to remember, Lucas was called the Prince of Darkness for the frequency of its failures--I was a victim once.

That guy was way out in left field.

 

IRS/ Live axle........ both are good in different respects. I'd love a strong IRS setup personally.

Now AWD..... no thanks. Once you start doing that you're asking for more things to break. It will also be heavier and now there is more sophisticated computer controls and sensors. Mustangs should be RWD IMO.

 

Please stop having a go at my Country!!! B)

He doesn't like the engine when it is in the MG, SO WHAT!!! HE DOES LIKE FMC USA CARS.

HE IS GETTING THE FIRST FORD GT IN EUROPE. If that isn't a vote of confidence, I do not know what is!!