Bad Lifters? Please help..
Bad Lifters? Please help..
The engine is making a tapping noise when cold, it goes away after the engine warms up. Its coming from the passenger side head, it sounds like a bad lifter or something, I dont want it to damage my cam or anything by driving it more..but as of now I dont have the cash to pull everything off and replace the lifters. The lifters are brand new and I believe they are still under warrenty, but since its an only vehicle rite now, I cant pull it apart and work on it.
So my question is, will it hurt the engine or anything if I drive it? I never drive it while its tapping, I always let it warm up before I take it anywhere. When I changed my oil at 500 miles, I used 10w 40 and some lucas oil hoping it would fix the probelm..obviously it did not. So will it hurt my engine or anything in the head if I drive it this way?
The engine a freshly rebuilt 1999 4.6l 2V with only 600 miles on it. Just did the first oil change.
Thanks.
So my question is, will it hurt the engine or anything if I drive it? I never drive it while its tapping, I always let it warm up before I take it anywhere. When I changed my oil at 500 miles, I used 10w 40 and some lucas oil hoping it would fix the probelm..obviously it did not. So will it hurt my engine or anything in the head if I drive it this way?
The engine a freshly rebuilt 1999 4.6l 2V with only 600 miles on it. Just did the first oil change.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by 96gt014.6
It wont hurt it to much as long as you don't well run it like a mustang.
Originally Posted by FORDGT14
What will it hurt eventually though? Im not sure when Ill be able to fix it. Wont it damage my cams?
Will make it even worse
Sounds more like an exhaust leak rather than a brand new lifter failing.
Since the engine was just rebuilt its probably time to check tightness in a number of areas starting with the exhaust manifold - and incl the heads (hopefully its not a head gasket leaking). That's not unusual to get an exhaust leak that needs retightening. And a noisy lifter usually doesn't stop just because the engine is warm.
Since the engine was just rebuilt its probably time to check tightness in a number of areas starting with the exhaust manifold - and incl the heads (hopefully its not a head gasket leaking). That's not unusual to get an exhaust leak that needs retightening. And a noisy lifter usually doesn't stop just because the engine is warm.
Last edited by cdynaco; Jan 25, 2012 at 09:02 PM.
Originally Posted by cdynaco
Sounds more like an exhaust leak rather than a brand new lifter failing.
Since the engine was just rebuilt its probably time to check tightness in a number of areas starting with the exhaust manifold - and incl the heads (hopefully its not a head gasket leaking). That's not unusual to get an exhaust leak that needs retightening. And a noisy lifter usually doesn't stop just because the engine is warm.
Since the engine was just rebuilt its probably time to check tightness in a number of areas starting with the exhaust manifold - and incl the heads (hopefully its not a head gasket leaking). That's not unusual to get an exhaust leak that needs retightening. And a noisy lifter usually doesn't stop just because the engine is warm.
Originally Posted by stephen utley
When the engine is cold the tapping noise the a lash adj not priming up if the noise is going away after warm up it is a bad adj or need lighter oil 10 30 to heavy on a new rebuild
Also, i read that "lucas oil" can stop your engine from breaking in because of it being synthetic or something. Is lucas oil bad for a new engine?
Originally Posted by 32vNomad
But thank you
I believe in dino oil or Motorcraft semi-synth for break ins. You want a bit of friction - then change within 1000 to clear any metal.
Last edited by cdynaco; Jan 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM.
Originally Posted by cdynaco
I believe in dino oil or Motorcraft semi-synth for break ins. You want a bit of friction - then change within 1000 to clear any metal.
you are using too thick of an oil imo for one and using an additive to stop the noise is only a bandaid. you have to find the source and fix it or damage could be done.
Also lash adjusters can make a tickingltapping noise noticeable at any engine rpm/temperature. It doesn't hurt to check for an exhasut leak and can be an added step to your check list to finding teh problem and then crossed off has you work towards the solution.
I'm still leaning towards a stuck/collapsed lash adjuster(s). You need to pull the cover off teh side you think the noise is coming from and move the cam to base circle and check for loose cam fowlers caused by the lash adjsuter plunger bottoming out. A collapsed "lifter" will have excessive clearence between teh lash adjuster and the fowler. replace the them.
The other option is the one I pmed you. Best of luck.
Also lash adjusters can make a tickingltapping noise noticeable at any engine rpm/temperature. It doesn't hurt to check for an exhasut leak and can be an added step to your check list to finding teh problem and then crossed off has you work towards the solution.
I'm still leaning towards a stuck/collapsed lash adjuster(s). You need to pull the cover off teh side you think the noise is coming from and move the cam to base circle and check for loose cam fowlers caused by the lash adjsuter plunger bottoming out. A collapsed "lifter" will have excessive clearence between teh lash adjuster and the fowler. replace the them.
The other option is the one I pmed you. Best of luck.
Originally Posted by skunk21
you are using too thick of an oil imo for one and using an additive to stop the noise is only a bandaid. you have to find the source and fix it or damage could be done.
Also lash adjusters can make a tickingltapping noise noticeable at any engine rpm/temperature. It doesn't hurt to check for an exhasut leak and can be an added step to your check list to finding teh problem and then crossed off has you work towards the solution.
I'm still leaning towards a stuck/collapsed lash adjuster(s). You need to pull the cover off teh side you think the noise is coming from and move the cam to base circle and check for loose cam fowlers caused by the lash adjsuter plunger bottoming out. A collapsed "lifter" will have excessive clearence between teh lash adjuster and the fowler. replace the them.
The other option is the one I pmed you. Best of luck.
Also lash adjusters can make a tickingltapping noise noticeable at any engine rpm/temperature. It doesn't hurt to check for an exhasut leak and can be an added step to your check list to finding teh problem and then crossed off has you work towards the solution.
I'm still leaning towards a stuck/collapsed lash adjuster(s). You need to pull the cover off teh side you think the noise is coming from and move the cam to base circle and check for loose cam fowlers caused by the lash adjsuter plunger bottoming out. A collapsed "lifter" will have excessive clearence between teh lash adjuster and the fowler. replace the them.
The other option is the one I pmed you. Best of luck.
Thanks for the info man.
Have you placed a long screwdriver to the cam cover with your ear against the handle?
Sometimes you can isolate a noise that way, and perhaps learn if its coming from within, near which journal, or that the sound isn't there... leading back to an exhaust leak.
Sometimes you can isolate a noise that way, and perhaps learn if its coming from within, near which journal, or that the sound isn't there... leading back to an exhaust leak.
Originally Posted by cdynaco
Have you placed a long screwdriver to the cam cover with your ear against the handle?
Sometimes you can isolate a noise that way, and perhaps learn if its coming from within, near which journal, or that the sound isn't there... leading back to an exhaust leak.
Sometimes you can isolate a noise that way, and perhaps learn if its coming from within, near which journal, or that the sound isn't there... leading back to an exhaust leak.
That is a good tip. I use a mechanics stethoscope now, I got more false reading with the screwdriver ( but it will work ) but pin pointing the steth is much better and can be had for cheap and is good for the tool box.
Originally Posted by skunk21
That is a good tip. I use a mechanics stethoscope now, I got more false reading with the screwdriver ( but it will work ) but pin pointing the steth is much better and can be had for cheap and is good for the tool box.
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