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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Has anyone here ever attempted re-wiring their car with a Painless kit?

My 69 doesn't have a pre-made kit, so I would have to use the 18 circuit generic one. I have heard great things about them, but I am a little worried about it.

I guess I would have to update to an "chevy single wire alternator, and do something to accomodate the 4 headlights. Other than that it should be pretty straight forward right?

Anyone?....

I also plan to run all the wire hidden through the fenders, and place the solonoid like I saw on here a while back. It was a 65 or 66 stang that really looked clean.


One more thing. My gauges hardly work. Can someone give me a or :notnice: on JME dashes? They have some nice ones for my car.
http://www.jmeenterprises.com/69dash.shtml

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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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personally i'm a plug and play kind guy so i will probably avoid the painless kits until they come out with one that is more ready to go for the 69. i'd rather just plug stuff in than have to route and wrap and figure out all the schematics and stuff. as far as the JME dashes for the 69 i would absolutely love to have one but for 1100.00 bucks i think i'll have to pass. the 67-68 dashes only sell for around 7-800 is there really an extra 3 or 400 dollars worth of plastic for the bezel? besides that i don't think they are even available yet. i know it says they are on the website but it has said that for the last year at least.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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I am with you on the plug and play thing. My friend wired his MACH 1 with original harnesses, but for a 69, it cost him a arm and a leg.

I will contact JME and see what teh scoop is on those dashes. That is a lot of $$$$$ though.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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you can get repro harnesses for fairly cheap, except for the underdash harness all of the other harnesses are repro'd. there is a guy on ebay that texasmach or texasbob or something that sells restored underdash harnesses for about 300 bucks or so. the headlight harness is about 250 or so and i think the taillight harness is like 185 or something and then add whatever the restored underdash harness is and you're out for under a grand, not bad really. if i remember right the painless harness is about 6-700 bucks and the savings just isn't worth the labor involved with painless harness to me
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Well, the painless kit is about $285. But I would have to cut and splice all the ends to the lights etc. The kit does come with some generic electical fittings, but I am sure that I would need to get some specialty ones.

Thanks for your input. Now off to Ebay and check out texasbob!
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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I actually contracted my brother a couple years ago to do a full rewire on my '67 using a universal kit from EZ-Wiring www.ezwiring.com . He needed work and I needed to avoid electrical work

Anyway, he did not complain too much about the task and it allowed me to hook up all my add ons cleanly (fuel pump, power antenna, ignition, list goes on...) with plenty of room for upgrades like power windows/locks, security systems, etc.

If you are willing to take the time it's a much cleaner approach to wiring a car.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Jay@October 7, 2004, 7:22 AM
I actually contracted my brother a couple years ago to do a full rewire on my '67 using a universal kit from EZ-Wiring www.ezwiring.com . He needed work and I needed to avoid electrical work

Anyway, he did not complain too much about the task and it allowed me to hook up all my add ons cleanly (fuel pump, power antenna, ignition, list goes on...) with plenty of room for upgrades like power windows/locks, security systems, etc.

If you are willing to take the time it's a much cleaner approach to wiring a car.
I think I will. Painless answered all of my questions and it doesn't seem to be too bad of a deal. I just have to buy an extra harness for the 2 extra headlights. They also provide wiring for Ford Alternators as well.


JME replied to me as well. They said the dashes are available but they are way backed up and it would take a while before I got one. I can wait till spring for that.

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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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You may want to check out the price difference between the Painless and EZWiring kits... save yourself some $$$
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Jay@October 7, 2004, 1:16 PM
You may want to check out the price difference between the Painless and EZWiring kits... save yourself some $$$
I did check that out. It almost seems too good to be true? Is there tech support if I need it? I am pretty confident I can wire the car. Something about that price makes me think that I am not getting as good of a product?

But they are deffinately being considered. Much cheaper.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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You're not gonna get that much vehicle specific tech support in either case because they will tell you it's a universal kit. The instructions that are included in the EZWiring kit are enough to pull it off if you take your time and don't cut anything until it's in the car.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Jay, which kit did you use? 21 circuit? Did you go with the mini fuses?

For $165 that is a great deal cheaper than replacing the original harness.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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I used the 21 kit with the colored wiring. At the time the mini was not available. Though based on the photo comparison on the site I don't think the "mini" is that much smaller, BUT the fuses are laid out in a neater fashion. The complaint I have on the standard panel is the labelling is off a little so it's not clear sometimes which fuse you are looking at.

My quarter window just jumped the track this weekend (annual event) so I maybe digging into the powerwindow side of the harness this winter... should be fun :angry:
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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I'm giving this serious thought since I have the goofy generator wiring harness in my car. Heck, I could probably ebay it and buy 2 of the EZwiring kits.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Stock wiring harnesses are for the bozos at Coddington's
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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No kidding! WTF was that? They've always used custom stuff in the other cars but then they talk about not being able to get a replacement for that one?

Just another stupid part of that show.
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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PLEASE HELP!!
OK Im just about to start my 3rd mustang resto. The only thing is this is the first one that I need to redo the wiring ...see attached pic....the person I bought the car from tore the wires and cut them and basically F$%@ed the wiring all up. Its a 67 coupe. Any ideas as to where to get and how to install new wiring???
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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If you want original wiring harness then check ebay or some of the parts vendors. If you want custom then I'd suggest the EZ-wiring kit that Jay mentions above. That's what I'm using.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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I'd tackle the rust first since you are going to have some serious disassembly to do for that...
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Oh ya!!! Tackling the rust is not a problem for me. Ive been doing bodywork & paint for over 25 years now. But I HATE wiring!!!
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