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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Well for years I've read how these cars handle better without the rear sway bars. And it came from many angles, but I always felt my car was more solid with the rear sway. I did add it with about 6 other upgrades though, and the one on my car when purchased was not doing a thing. So my opinion is a bit cloudy.

Well, my new exhaust system is nearly done and I'm running into the sway bar now which is causing the rear exhaust clamp to come in contact with the aluminum housing of my Fuel Safe cell.

So to make my life easier... and hoping the no rear sway bar concept is accurate for the track AND the street I am probably going to take it out today.

I would like to put some type of rear centering device in though. What are my options? What are the pros and cons? (with the new exhaust I have a lot more options around the rear).
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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I have installed the G/West leaf spring bushing kit. According to the information on the web site using their parts no rear sway bar was needed until you reach Stage 4 of their kits. While not inexpensive ($239) they are indeed high quality parts. The installation was not complex except for installing the aluminum sleeves in the rear frame rails. I made pullers to install the busings using 1/2 threaded rod and some large washers. I had to cut the threaded rod in order to remove it after I pulled the first frame bushing in. I made the rod so long that after the bushing was in I could not angle it enough to remove. The instructions did not give any tips on how to install, but they were complete and detailed otherwise.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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thought about a panhard bar?
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by LMan@August 16, 2004, 9:19 AM
thought about a panhard bar?
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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well, Im sure many others can give you better info, but its a lateral-locating device for the rear axle, essentially a tube that attaches b/w the axle (usually at/near the diff) and the frame. It resists/manages the axle's lateral travel during cornering by tying it to the frame (with an adjustable amount of travel/preload). They can be simple or elaborate. A "Watts link" performs the same function but is much more elaborate/better/for the serious racer.

I thought of this since I also have a rear swaybar but was PONDERING a simple panhard bar instead. My exhaust no longer runs to the rear of the car so I could do about anything there I wanted, I suppose.

I dont have the background to argue for/against a panhard bar v. a rear swaybar for aggressive street driving, unfortunately. Someone else will have to step up to the plate there.

Panhard bar (one vendor's version):


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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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So does this mean you'll be putting it on the track?

The panhard bar is good for quite a few bling-points with the right crowd. Watts link is even more impressive. Neither is required or beneficial unless you're on the track though.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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You should remove that reference, he probably googles himself all day long and the last thing we need is an invitation...

I don't think I'd go as far a watts link. I could see the panhard bar on the street ... go tie your shoe laces tighter or maybe you need velcro?

Perhaps a stam bar?
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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"Googles himself".....hmm......bad mental picture there :shock:
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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Pulled the bar finally (while doing the turn downs). Took it out lastnight for some stomping. Still felt nice and solid through the turns (with some crotch rockets holding my bumper). So might not miss the bar at all.

Have read good things on the solid bushings. Also, I will have to build my own tailpipes anyway so a more complex rear suspension setup/device could be good.

Maybe that 4 link in the New Products Thread???
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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make sure you show us a pic of the new turndowns. Would like to see how that "turned" out
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