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Old 6/23/13, 11:44 AM
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Theres more than 3

V6
Roush V6 GTS I think they call it
shelby gts v6
V8
Roush various models of the V8
Boss 302
Gt500
Gt350
super snake
1000 shelby

I'm sure there are others im forgetting as well
Old 6/23/13, 11:57 AM
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like maybe the saleen 351
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Where would they get the extra room in the engine? Everything I have read says that the Coyote is at max displacement as-is.
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Originally Posted by bob
If one considers 30-40 years between special editions as the proper amount of time and you include the various tuner cars (Roush, Saleen, et al) then I suppose the market is saturated.

This seems to be a common complaint about Mustang, despite Bugatti introducing the "emperors new clothes" edition every other month, along with Lamborghini and Porsche doing the same and getting a pass on it.
To be fair, all the Porsche, Bugatti, and Lambo stuff is the factory, whereas with the Mustang, you'v got the 3 Ford models, and then the tuners.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
The Mach 1 has always been pretty much a factory drag pack car. Little bigger motor. Solid axle. Weekend drag racer car. The GT350 would be a road racer. That's if they try and keep the purity of the name plate.
I never thought the Mach 1 was all that special. My best friend had a '69 Mach one back in the day. Nothing special about it IMHO, especially compared to the XR-7. It was just a sportier fancier Mustang, nothing stood out really when compared to a Boss or SCJ.
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Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

I never thought the Mach 1 was all that special. My best friend had a '69 Mach one back in the day. Nothing special about it IMHO, especially compared to the XR-7. It was just a sportier fancier Mustang, nothing stood out really when compared to a Boss or SCJ.
I love mustangs and always have. My grandfather and father were both mustang owners. I was always under the impression the Mach was just the replacement for the gt name in the late 60s or early 70s. It had some neat graphics on it bit it seemed like most cars of that era had some type graphic to punch up their looks.
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Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
To be fair, all the Porsche, Bugatti, and Lambo stuff is the factory, whereas with the Mustang, you'v got the 3 Ford models, and then the tuners.
There are plenty of tuners out there for the more exotic stuff with perhaps Bugatti being the singular exception (and even then I'm sure somebody caters to the Bugatti owner that doesn't want to be seen in the run-of-the-mill Veyron).

Personally I don't consider tuner cars as being other than that and how somebody lumps a tuner car in with the factory engineered stuff baffles me.

Perhaps Ford should be more discerning with whom they let use their car as the basis for derivative performance models (as in nobody)?

Originally Posted by Rodimus_prime
Theres more than 3

V6
Roush V6 GTS I think they call it
shelby gts v6
V8
Roush various models of the V8
Boss 302
Gt500
Gt350
super snake
1000 shelby

I'm sure there are others im forgetting as well
Funny, when I go to Ford's website (http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/ ) there is no mention of anything other than the V6, GT, and GT500.

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You can add Sherrod to this list.
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_prime
Theres more than 3
V6
Roush V6 GTS I think they call it
shelby gts v6
V8
Roush various models of the V8
Boss 302
Gt500
Gt350
super snake
1000 shelby

I'm sure there are others im forgetting as well
Base/GT/SE/SVT
That's it, that's all.

The rest are aftermarket tuners.
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Well the fact of the matter is that Roush Mustangs are on the Ford Dealer lots.....
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_prime
Well the fact of the matter is that Roush Mustangs are on the Ford Dealer lots.....
If they are a ROUSH dealer.
or SALEEN dealer....

They are also VIN'd as SALEEN MUSTANG or ROUSH MUSTANG.
Not FORD.
Old 6/25/13, 08:15 AM
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Shelby American has already signed a contract with Ford to continue building/creating aftermarket vehicles with Ford's blessing. If you honestly think they're not going to use Shelby's name to help sell Ford's halo car, you're nuts. The GT500 will be back.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
The Mach 1 has always been pretty much a factory drag pack car. Little bigger motor. Solid axle. Weekend drag racer car. The GT350 would be a road racer. That's if they try and keep the purity of the name plate.
Hmm I wonder if they'd make the Mach 1 then with a Solid Axle for more drag racing rather than road course? Kinda like a special package deal with only the Mach 1 not having IRS.
Aren't solid axles better for straight line?

Originally Posted by Boomer
If they are a ROUSH dealer.
or SALEEN dealer....

They are also VIN'd as SALEEN MUSTANG or ROUSH MUSTANG.
Not FORD.
I see both sides to this..
On one hand, It's not titled a Ford...
On the other hand, Everyone knows its another variant of a Mustang.
More times than not, If you say I drive a Saleen, Roush, or Shelby Mustang, people know what you're talking about. So to the world, it's another option of mustangs.

Ford has to also know this.
Now I do like all the options... but sometimes it is just a LOT!

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Old 6/27/13, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Krohn
Hmm I wonder if they'd make the Mach 1 then with a Solid Axle for more drag racing rather than road course? Kinda like a special package deal with only the Mach 1 not having IRS.
Aren't solid axles better for straight line?
No way that would happen outside of a Cobrajet replacement. Much hacking up of the rear suspension and back seat would have to transpire in order to achieve that.

If the next Mustang is indeed a bit smaller externally while offering nearly the same interior volume as the current car, an IRS would definitely be in order in the rear since it allows some extra space.

An IRS isn't just about handling or a comfortable ride, despite its added complexity, an IRS also packages better than an SRA.

Also if the current Camaro is any indication as well as past Cobras, the IRS doesn't seem to be much of an impediment until a car is into single digit quarter mile times.
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