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Old 6/16/16, 03:05 PM
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Thanks fastback, its a pretty fun car.
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Haven't done a lot of exterior mods yet. Most of my mods have been interior.






Not the greatest Mustang around but I still enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by M90CaliforniaSpecial
Thanks fastback, its a pretty fun car.
I'm sure that it's just as fun of a Mustang as mine is
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Originally Posted by VGMStudios
Haven't done a lot of exterior mods yet. Most of my mods have been interior.






Not the greatest Mustang around but I still enjoy it.
IMHO there's something special and unique about every Mustang..
In the end, all that really matters, is that you enjoy it

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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
I'm sure that it's just as fun of a Mustang as mine is
Not quite as fun as your from the looks of your signature. Whats your numbers look like?
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Originally Posted by M90CaliforniaSpecial
Not quite as fun as your from the looks of your signature. Whats your numbers look like?
When it was last on the dyno.. It made 432 HP @ 5500 RPM and 436 ft lb torque..
Since downgrading from a 3.4 to 3.6 pulley, I've probably lost around 10 RWHP.. However I wanted my car to run safe without having to run a Kenne Bell BAP..

Eventually I would like to find a better heat exchanger to replace my current Saleen exchanger, as I want to bring my IAT's down, as I'm concerned with heat soak..

I've also attached a copy of my dyno sheet, but don't know if you'll be able to read the graph numbers, as they pretty much appear to look faded lol.
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Awesome man! As I stated in the pictures I'm taking mine to the shop in the next couple of days for gears, a pulley, tune and Killer Chiller. Have you looked into the Killer Chillers yet? I was going to go the route of the $800 triple bypass dual fan until looking into the KC units and its pretty evident that the KC will do a lot more for heat soak then the upgraded heat exchanger.
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This may seem like a dumb question, but what exactly is the Killer Chiller ? I've never heard of it before, so I'm not familiar with them nor have a clue as to how they work.. But if they really help with heat soak and are less expensive over a larger capacity heat exchanger.. I would definitely be interested in finding out more about them..

Btw: did you have any trouble reading the dyno chart graphs I posted ?
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My friends from Michigan who all drag their cars (running 9's and 10's in a quarter) turned me onto to the Killer Chiller. When you turn the AC on the refrigerant is forced through the chiller core. The way the KC is designed, 90% of the chiller core is used for heat transfer, making it extremely efficient at chilling down the IC fluid, and allowing for more boost and or timing. The temp of the refrigerant will be about 20 degrees entering the core, and the exit temp should be around 35 degrees. The refrigerant will then make its way back to the evap at about 40-45 degrees and exit at around 65 degrees. If your anything like me you'll spend at least two hours researching it as I did and I can't find a single reason not to do it! Research KC vs H/E. Killer Chiller can be found at its own website Killerchillerdotcom but all in all it is a bit more expensive then the HE. Maybe another $200 in labor.

Yes I was having problems with the pics,I couldn't make out the charts very well.
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
IMHO there's something special and unique about every Mustang..
In the end, all that really matters, is that you enjoy it
Thanks I guess. But I also noticed you never said you liked it or not, confirming my suspicions that my car isn't that great compared to others.
Hopefully it will be one day. :P
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Originally Posted by M90CaliforniaSpecial
My friends from Michigan who all drag their cars (running 9's and 10's in a quarter) turned me onto to the Killer Chiller. When you turn the AC on the refrigerant is forced through the chiller core. The way the KC is designed, 90% of the chiller core is used for heat transfer, making it extremely efficient at chilling down the IC fluid, and allowing for more boost and or timing. The temp of the refrigerant will be about 20 degrees entering the core, and the exit temp should be around 35 degrees. The refrigerant will then make its way back to the evap at about 40-45 degrees and exit at around 65 degrees. If your anything like me you'll spend at least two hours researching it as I did and I can't find a single reason not to do it! Research KC vs H/E. Killer Chiller can be found at its own website Killerchillerdotcom but all in all it is a bit more expensive then the HE. Maybe another $200 in labor.

Yes I was having problems with the pics,I couldn't make out the charts very well.
Right after I read over your post, I did some research and located the website for the KC.. Needless to say, I was very impressed with the design and how it works through tapping into the AC..

Although it may be more expensive over upgrading to a larger, more efficient heat exchanger.. The KC definitely seems to be the more effective solution for lowering IAT's along with reducing heat soak..

In the meantime, I'll be contacting the KC's customer service dept to get further details/info..


Here's the link for their site below.. As for the graph pics I posted, after you click on the image, you should be able to move your cursor and then click again to enlarge the image..


http://killerchiller.com/products/20...97-mustang-kit
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Originally Posted by VGMStudios
Thanks I guess. But I also noticed you never said you liked it or not, confirming my suspicions that my car isn't that great compared to others.
Hopefully it will be one day. :P

Oops, my bad lol... Anyway, yes I do like your Mustang.. I also like the way your Raxiom gen 5 tail lights give your car more of a stealth look to it and I also like your front spliters as well, along with your pony package grille

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Originally Posted by lowblustang00
Those look great.

Do you have any pics with them on from the front and back?

Thinking about getting new wheels and tires myself, and I have thought about the spiders before.
Hope these pics show the front and rear better ? I just took them this morning..
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Saw this second owner '07 Saleen at a show yesterday. The color is 'Lipstick Red' and is the most amazing paint I've ever seen on a Mustang...or any other car for that matter. It had to be seen in person...pics can't do it justice. According to the owner, only 3 were made and it was a $17,000 Saleen option. Supposedly the sticker on this car was $90K.
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Originally Posted by TripleBlack14
Saw this second owner '07 Saleen at a show yesterday. The color is 'Lipstick Red' and is the most amazing paint I've ever seen on a Mustang...or any other car for that matter. It had to be seen in person...pics can't do it justice. According to the owner, only 3 were made and it was a $17,000 Saleen option. Supposedly the sticker on this car was $90K.
Yep I saw one that color (and an S7) at a Saleen get together a few years ago. If anything was to be described as sex, that color would be it!!
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Hope these pics show the front and rear better ? I just took them this morning..
Looks great Rocky!

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Saw this second owner '07 Saleen at a show yesterday. The color is 'Lipstick Red' and is the most amazing paint I've ever seen on a Mustang...or any other car for that matter. It had to be seen in person...pics can't do it justice. According to the owner, only 3 were made and it was a $17,000 Saleen option. Supposedly the sticker on this car was $90K.
I love me some Saleen Mustangs! That is stunning.
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Looks great Rocky!
Thank you Tony
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It has looked this way for a few years now. looking to change the wheels up when ever I get a few bucks saved up.
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Thank you Tony
You're welcome!

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It has looked this way for a few years now. looking to change the wheels up when ever I get a few bucks saved up.
Car looks great!! (I think this is the first time I've seen your car. I like it! What's the color called?)
What wheels are you looking at?
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Oops, my bad lol... Anyway, yes I do like your Mustang.. I also like the way your Raxiom gen 5 tail lights give your car more of a stealth look to it and I also like your front spliters as well, along with your pony package grille
thanks for your kind words


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