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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 06:47 PM
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GT WITH AUTO TRANS/PADDLE SHIFTERS

Anyone happy or not with the paddle shifters in their GT?
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 05:08 PM
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Anyone happy or not with the paddle shifters in their GT?
Very happy with mine.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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I love them
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 12:25 PM
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A real man doesn't use paddle shifters. Only a manual transmission
*Joking though*. Are paddle shifters almost like manual though.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 06:06 PM
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Anyone happy or not with the paddle shifters in their GT?
They suck in my opinion, not very responsive. Maybe if they were supercar responsive, I would like them but they're not. Just stick to track mode and that'll kill any manual car in a race.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:25 PM
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They suck in my opinion, not very responsive. Maybe if they were supercar responsive, I would like them but they're not. Just stick to track mode and that'll kill any manual car in a race.
So are you focusing on the paddles or the transmission? The paddles are simply switches, it's the trans that has to respond to the input.

I have found mine to shift a little slow. But I have not tried them in a controlled area using Track mode. I wonder if they will have a different response time in that mode. You seem to appreciate Track mode, I'll have to try it with the paddles and see what happens.

As switches they work fine, and the images (+ -) are lighted at night. When using them I noticed the gear indication flashes on the info screen.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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I'm happy with them.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 04:30 AM
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadk9
So are you focusing on the paddles or the transmission? The paddles are simply switches, it's the trans that has to respond to the input.

I have found mine to shift a little slow. But I have not tried them in a controlled area using Track mode. I wonder if they will have a different response time in that mode. You seem to appreciate Track mode, I'll have to try it with the paddles and see what happens.

As switches they work fine, and the images (+ -) are lighted at night. When using them I noticed the gear indication flashes on the info screen.
I'm referring to the paddle shifters. I know on the 2015 Accord sport (i know it is nowhere as beastly as a GT and also it's CVT and not traditional auto), the paddles shifters are very precise and quick; very in tune with the transmission. If they were like that on the Mustang, I wouldn't trash them. I mentioned track mode because Ford did a great job programming track and sport mode (I use sport for drag racing i.e. from a dig, track for all other racing (specifically for quicker rolling launches because of the reduced traction control). Excellent throttle, pedal torque, optimal gear selecting, and automatically senses when to hold gears, etc. When you consider trying to perform all these things the programming does on a manual or with paddle shifters, it's no contest, the automatic performance drive modes will crush them. There are some advantages to using paddles or manual but imo in very limited and specific scenarios.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ohlang
I'm referring to the paddle shifters. I know on the 2015 Accord sport (i know it is nowhere as beastly as a GT and also it's CVT and not traditional auto), the paddles shifters are very precise and quick; very in tune with the transmission. If they were like that on the Mustang, I wouldn't trash them. I mentioned track mode because Ford did a great job programming track and sport mode (I use sport for drag racing i.e. from a dig, track for all other racing (specifically for quicker rolling launches because of the reduced traction control). Excellent throttle, pedal torque, optimal gear selecting, and automatically senses when to hold gears, etc. When you consider trying to perform all these things the programming does on a manual or with paddle shifters, it's no contest, the automatic performance drive modes will crush them. There are some advantages to using paddles or manual but imo in very limited and specific scenarios.
I had an Accord Coupe, With Paddles (reg Auto not CVT)...I had fun with it but not the adrenalin rush I get with the mustang in Sport+...I use the paddles mostly for city driving because Sport or Sport+ makes the car act & shift at the weirdest times...Shifting myself makes the car more manageable + enjoyable in and around traffic...

Strongly agree not to paddle shift when racing or just plain out having fun in a controlled environment, but the paddles are fun also W/O the excitement of mashing the pedal in sport-track-->


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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LQQK
...I use the paddles mostly for city driving because Sport or Sport+ makes the car act & shift at the weirdest times...Shifting myself makes the car more manageable + enjoyable in and around traffic...
Totally agree with Sport/sport+ and track not being ideal for normal driving (higher rev'ing, engine breaking, gear hangs) and Normal mode IMO sucks; the pedal feels heavy and throttle response is extremely poor.

That's why I opted to get a custom tune to change normal mode (drive on my non-premium). The tuner is still tweaking it so that I get sport mode performance from middle throttle through to WOT. So far from the automatic settings I have loaded, the pedal feels the same as sport and track and throttle response is very good, but at low throttle, I'm well below 2000rpm (1250-1500) and the performance shops custom shift points is pretty decent but looking forward to the sport shift points in the middle to WOT range.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ohlang
Totally agree with Sport/sport+ and track not being ideal for normal driving (higher rev'ing, engine breaking, gear hangs) and Normal mode IMO sucks; the pedal feels heavy and throttle response is extremely poor.

That's why I opted to get a custom tune to change normal mode (drive on my non-premium). The tuner is still tweaking it so that I get sport mode performance from middle throttle through to WOT. So far from the automatic settings I have loaded, the pedal feels the same as sport and track and throttle response is very good, but at low throttle, I'm well below 2000rpm (1250-1500) and the performance shops custom shift points is pretty decent but looking forward to the sport shift points in the middle to WOT range.
Please keep this thread updated on the progress, I'm interested.

I put it in Sport or Sport+, then activate the paddles to avoid the craziness of the computer making the ride almost unbearable.
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LQQK
Please keep this thread updated on the progress, I'm interested.

I put it in Sport or Sport+, then activate the paddles to avoid the craziness of the computer making the ride almost unbearable.
Finally got drive reprogrammed the way I like it. For non racing situations, I'm entirely in drive/normal mode now and it feels just as responsive and fast as Sport/Track although I have a feeling that Ford's more aggressive drive modes may still have the edge being they're designed for racing and who can program it better than their engineers (sport/sport+ for drag racing and track for rolling racing).

For a long time I was stuck trying to get the tuner to properly change the pedal feel (in Sport/Sport+/Track, the pedal is noticeably lighter than in Drive/Normal). At first he dismissed it as being a mechanical change that was required but because he initially gave me a 2015 file a tuner friend of his was testing for me to test on mine. It changed the feel of the pedal when I tried it, so I told him that the file was proof that it could be adjusted electronically. His friend didn't purposely cause the change but the 2015 and 2016 processors was different enough that his file had unforeseen results when loaded on my 2016. After further research, he found something he called "pedal torque" adjustment and sure enough that was it. I next asked for a very "high" value than the first he had me try to see the differences in this category and lastly asked for something in between. The first adjustment setting he gave me was the best (I don't know what the actually "value" was). When it was adjusted more (increased I'm assuming) it allowed me to ride the current gear longer before downshifting, but even though the pedal felt lighter and I had more control of the current gear, overall, it was not good for quick acceleration.

So the final programming I requested was:
(1) first pedal torque setting he made
(2) quick upshifts at low throttle
(3) from 1/4 throttle and up copy over the Sport mode shift settings*

*(There's a table he uses in his app/utility to adjust the shift settings. It displays the values he adjusts to tell it at what speed and at what pedal pressure to shift up or down at.)

The differences between my new Drive and Sport/Track:
(1) no constant 2,000rpm
(2) because of (1) no engine breaking at 2,000rpm
(3) no gear holds following heavy acceleration
(4) quick upshifts at low throttle
(5) early downshifts when applying throttle

Although you can't experience what I experience, I have a crappy three part video series where i talk about all of this.


Removed dyno video never blurred out my license number, sorry.

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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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How exactly do paddle shifters (or any shifters for that matter) work on a car with no gears (re: the CVT paddle shifters)?
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeywhat
How exactly do paddle shifters (or any shifters for that matter) work on a car with no gears (re: the CVT paddle shifters)?
Because CVT essentially provides infinite number of "gears", in order to provide paddle shifters, they have predefined "gear" ratios mapped to the virtual gears you manual shift through.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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Paddle shifters

I wish you could shift with the gear shifter instead because when you turn corners and need to shift its very awkward.
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fedupdave42169
I wish you could shift with the gear shifter instead because when you turn corners and need to shift its very awkward.


My fiancé's Camry Sport has both paddles and center shifter, but its a Camry
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