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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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2017 Fusion Sport=Twin Turbo 2.7 V6/350HP

Mustang is Fords' HALO car and we have a 2.3L single turbo I4, while the 2017 Fusion Sport is getting a twin turbo 2.7l V6 putting out 350/ HP and 340/ torque.

Come on Ford, I wanted a reasonable performance car and I have been happy with the Eco, but why not give us the twin turbo V6 and use the I4 in the Fusion? Or, use the I4 as the base model and the V6 TT as the intermediate in the Mustang? What gives?

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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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Because the ecoboost Mustang is going to be the new V6. It's supposed to offer decent performance at a decent price range, with good economy.

Did you forget that the GT, GT350 and GT500 exist?
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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Also, I'm pretty sure you mean Fusion Sport.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AWmustang
Also, I'm pretty sure you mean Fusion Sport.
Corrected..thanks! Reading one thing and writing something else.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeywhat
Because the ecoboost Mustang is going to be the new V6. It's supposed to offer decent performance at a decent price range, with good economy.

Did you forget that the GT, GT350 and GT500 exist?
No, but to many people, all of those are priced outside their ability to buy them. A base Mustang with the I4 EB, and the TTV6 as the next step before the GT would make more sense. You are getting more then decent performance and good fuel economy, without the high cost of ownership associated with the GT350 (listed at local dealer for $64000), or the GT500.

I am going to "assume" Ford used the I4 for Euro consumption based on their tax situation, and to better meet CAFE standards here, across the Ford line. Hopefully, we will see a performance increase in 2017, to both the I4 and 5.0.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 03:43 PM
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Right, but why offer a million different engine options that are not that far apart in performance? It's just mud in the water at some point, and for the vast majority of users the 2.3 Ecoboost is likely enough power for them...if they wanted more they'd get the GT. A middle of the road option would have trouble selling as you could get a GT for a few grand more, or spend a few grand less and get the same car with a little less power...which for most people not looking at a GT will likely be just fine. There's a roughly $7000 gap between the V6 and GT models...if you put a middle option in there that's $3500 between it and the GT....I know I'd just throw down the couple grand for the better vehicle at that point.

Now, increasing power on the current options? Sure...but there's zero point in offering anything between the GT and base model.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SD CALSPCL
Mustang is Fords' HALO car and we have a 2.3L single turbo I4, while the 2017 Fusion Sport is getting a twin turbo 2.7l V6 putting out 350/ HP and 340/ torque.
The numbers are actually 325hp, 350 ft-lbs of torque, and the car will be AWD and start at $34,xxx
Which with a few options means a $40k Fusion.
Kinda rich for me.

Originally Posted by SD CALSPCL
Come on Ford, I wanted a reasonable performance car and I have been happy with the Eco, but why not give us the twin turbo V6 and use the I4 in the Fusion? Or, use the I4 as the base model and the V6 TT as the intermediate in the Mustang? What gives?
The Mustang's 4-cyl EcoBoost engine's size was dictated by European regulations.
The '15+ car is getting exported to countries that put heavy taxes on engines larger than 2.0 liters, some 2.3, so Ford compromised with the 2.3 to make the car marketable there.
Making the 2.7 TT V6 engine a base engine would limit the buyer base severely and tax the hell out of the car
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabe
Making the 2.7 TT V6 engine a base engine would limit the buyer base severely and tax the hell out of the car
All while offering only a minimal bump in performance.
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