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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 05:43 AM
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i have a 2012 gt brembo with Koni orange, gt500 mounts on stock springs and was thinking about SR lowering springs 1.5 front and rear drop with an adj panhard bar,anyone using these springs? Not looking to go more than 1.5 on the drop,daily driver,just want to get rid of the fender gap with as good or better than stock ride with better handling!Have a Roush uca with a fpp lca that got rid of my wheel hop.
The SR springs are OK from what I've seen, but I prefer name-brand stuff.
I really like my Steeda Sport set-up, but if I was to be in the market now, I would most likely go with BMR
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 08:34 AM
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OK, I have decided I will get the control arm and sway bars.

Some have given their suggestions already, but wondering what others may prefer for control arms and sway bars.

As I don't plan on crawling under my car to tune it, adjustable would not be required. Just want to put it in and leave it.

And do I need a different Panhard bar?
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 09:50 AM
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I wouldn't bother with aftermarket swaybars, unless you plan to really track the car.
The new springs will make a big difference, and they also help minimize body roll since they're usually stiffer.
As far as an adjustable panhard bar, yes, they're usually needed to center the rear axle, an easy adjustment.
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
OK, I have decided I will get the control arm and sway bars.

Some have given their suggestions already, but wondering what others may prefer for control arms and sway bars.

As I don't plan on crawling under my car to tune it, adjustable would not be required. Just want to put it in and leave it.

And do I need a different Panhard bar?
Are you planning on just control arms and sways, or in addition to springs? Control arms and sways will cost more than the springs and will not impact handling as much.
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
OK, I have decided I will get the control arm and sway bars.

Some have given their suggestions already, but wondering what others may prefer for control arms and sway bars.

As I don't plan on crawling under my car to tune it, adjustable would not be required. Just want to put it in and leave it.

And do I need a different Panhard bar?
Wait, do you mean leaving your stock springs and getting sways? Did I get that right or am I off base here?

That's a big no no. Sways with stock springs would make no sense. Other way around would be better. Besides, most sways already account for lowered cars anyway in terms of roll stiffness, (since you need less roll stiffness with stiffer springs).

Honestly, if you're dead set on leaving ride heights stock just replace your Koni Orange with Koni Yellow. This way you can dial in the dampers to roll slower, and therefore stiffen the car without doing springs or sways.

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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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You'll have to forgive my ignorance when it comes to performance. All my modding knowledge is limited to the interior and electronics.

I had read on the GTI forums, though, that Koni yellows can be run on stock springs using adjustable sway bars?

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182561
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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
You'll have to forgive my ignorance when it comes to performance. All my modding knowledge is limited to the interior and electronics.

I had read on the GTI forums, though, that Koni yellows can be run on stock springs using adjustable sway bars?

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182561
You can run different shocks/struts and improve the ride, but usually not as much as if you upgraded the springs at the same time. Springs are not that expensive and there is no additional labor if you are already changing the shocks/struts, this is why they are often done together.

The sway bars are not dependent on the shock/struts/springs and can be upgraded at any time,but are usually done last. The stock sway bars on the mustang are actually pretty good, so I would spend my money on something that will have a bigger affect on handling first. I am only replacing mine at this point due to bad end link bushings on the rear. I am really happy with the overall handling at this point with the stock sway bars.

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Old Jan 21, 2017 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
You'll have to forgive my ignorance when it comes to performance. All my modding knowledge is limited to the interior and electronics.

I had read on the GTI forums, though, that Koni yellows can be run on stock springs using adjustable sway bars?

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182561
That might be the case on VW's, but as we all know, a Mustang is a completely different animal.
The shocks and springs are really lame from the factory, swapping them out for Koni Yellows or Bilsteins plus a good set of springs is all most people will ever need.
You don't start really needing swaybars until you start racing the car.
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 01:36 PM
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Ok

anyone know what spring will drop the car the absolute least?
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Ok

anyone know what spring will drop the car the absolute least?
Roush. They even sell packages, but you could probably piece together a kit for a little cheaper.
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Ok

anyone know what spring will drop the car the absolute least?
Originally Posted by laserred38
Roush. They even sell packages, but you could probably piece together a kit for a little cheaper.
Yeah, Roush.
There's also some Ford Racing springs that will only lower the car about 1-1.25" I believe

You could always go with GT500 springs if you want the car to be lowered less.
They're meant for a heavier car so they won't settle down as low when installed on a lighter car
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Old Jan 22, 2017 | 11:01 PM
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What about the SR springs and a set of Koni srt's instead of the yellows?
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Old Jan 23, 2017 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jcreek79
What about the SR springs and a set of Koni srt's instead of the yellows?
SR springs are 1.5" drop
Koni's STR.T shocks are not adjustable, they supposedly ride like the yellows on full-soft, and they don't have a lifetime warranty like the yellows.
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Old Jan 23, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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Hmm... so I should switch out my orange for yellow, then.
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Old Jan 23, 2017 | 06:08 PM
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Hmm... so I should switch out my orange for yellow, then.
I would definitely switch to Koni yellows.. From my understanding there have been quality related issues with the oranges and they also don't offer full lifetime warranties where as the yellows are covered under lifetime warranty and still manufactured in Holland.. The Koni STR.T Oranges on the other hand are manufactured in Mexico..
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Old Jan 23, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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Have koni hello with steeda sport springs and gt500 strut mounts!
GREAT COMBO!
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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So the latest advise that I am now favouring is trading up to the Koni Yellows from my Oranges. I already have the GT500 mounts.
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 11:46 AM
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So the latest advise that I am now favouring is trading up to the Koni Yellows from my Oranges. I already have the GT500 mounts.
That is a good place to start if you really are against doing different springs.
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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Again, do think the car looks good lowered, and would like to compliment the struts and shocks with appropriate springs, but as it is now, the front of my car 'just' clears curbs and the steep driveway.
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Old Jan 26, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Ok

anyone know what spring will drop the car the absolute least?
H&R OE Sport Springs. 10mm front and rear. I had them, paired with Koni FSD's... very decent ride...

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