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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Advice needed on staggered bullitt wheels

First off please forgive me if I sound like a noob in this thread... Trying to figure out the basics here! Anyways to the question, I have had my 2010 v6 for about 3 weeks now and one thing has become apparent to me... The stock 17x7 rims are ugly... So I'm considering an upgrade to 18 inch bullitt rims but need some advice! I love the look of the deep dish bullitt rim from american muscle but I am concerned about drivability. Now my 2010 is a daily driver and is most likely never going to see a day at the track. My concern is with the mpg loss of a staggered setup with 18x9's up front and 18x10's in the rear. Is anyone here running this setup? If so did you notice a significant decrease in mpg? Am I better off with a set of 18x8 all around? Any advice would be appreciated!

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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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Personally, I can't speak to someone running staggered rims and MPG. I can't imagine it would be a drastic difference. It shouldn't be a deal breaker. But you won't be able to rotate your tires, and THAT could be a deal breaker to you.
How many Kms annually will you be putting on your car? Driving it in the winter? Year round?
If so, will you have a second set of rims for winter with winter tires? If running year round all seasons with high Kms, you won't be able to rotate front to rear with a staggered set up, so think about with.

Are you going to upgrade the suspension or lower the car?
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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that would make no real measurable change in anything on your car. all depends on the tires and rolling resistance.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Moejoe_989
Personally, I can't speak to someone running staggered rims and MPG. I can't imagine it would be a drastic difference. It shouldn't be a deal breaker. But you won't be able to rotate your tires, and THAT could be a deal breaker to you.
How many Kms annually will you be putting on your car? Driving it in the winter? Year round?
If so, will you have a second set of rims for winter with winter tires? If running year round all seasons with high Kms, you won't be able to rotate front to rear with a staggered set up, so think about with.

Are you going to upgrade the suspension or lower the car?
Well the car is currently my only daily driver so I do plan to drive it year round. I drive about 70 miles per day for work and school. Per year I'm probably going to be putting about 15,000 miles on the car. I currently don't plan to have a second set of rims for the winter so yes I know rotating the wheels will be an issue... The car currently has 43,000 miles on the clock so within the next year or so I do plan to upgrade the suspension and possibly lower the car. The reason I am considering the staggered setup is because american muscle doesn't offer deep dish 18x9's and I do like the wider rims in the rear... Just trying to figure out if it will be more trouble then its worth to go with this setup.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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Just trying to figure out if it will be more trouble then its worth to go with this setup.
For a daily driver car, anything you can do to maximize tread wear and get long life out of your tires is key, in my opinion. I love the staggered look but tire rotation can only be from left to right sides (unless you get uni-directional tires). I daily drive my 2010 about 18,000 miles per year, and that means tire replacement about every 2 years or so.

As others have mentioned, fuel economy is probably a lesser concern.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
For a daily driver car, anything you can do to maximize tread wear and get long life out of your tires is key, in my opinion. I love the staggered look but tire rotation can only be from left to right sides (unless you get uni-directional tires). I daily drive my 2010 about 18,000 miles per year, and that means tire replacement about every 2 years or so.

As others have mentioned, fuel economy is probably a lesser concern.
A 2 year interval between tires is something I could defiantly deal with. I guess I have just seen horror stories of people loosing upwards of 5 mpg when they went to wider rim/tire so that just got me worried...
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by zackmd1
A 2 year interval between tires is something I could defiantly deal with. I guess I have just seen horror stories of people loosing upwards of 5 mpg when they went to wider rim/tire so that just got me worried...
Perhaps if some people didn't get those 24s...
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:37 AM
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It made no noticeable difference in MPG's in my car when I went to a staggered setup wider tires. I have never cared about rotating tires, just replace them as needed. Get yourself a tread depth gauge and use that to watch for correct tire pressure, abnormal wear and fix the problem early. If your front end alignment is good your tires should wear fine. Go for it
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by zackmd1
Well the car is currently my only daily driver so I do plan to drive it year round. I drive about 70 miles per day for work and school. Per year I'm probably going to be putting about 15,000 miles on the car. I currently don't plan to have a second set of rims for the winter so yes I know rotating the wheels will be an issue... The car currently has 43,000 miles on the clock so within the next year or so I do plan to upgrade the suspension and possibly lower the car. The reason I am considering the staggered setup is because american muscle doesn't offer deep dish 18x9's and I do like the wider rims in the rear... Just trying to figure out if it will be more trouble then its worth to go with this setup.
I think you may have missed something.. American muscle does offer 18x9 deep dish bullits, i have them
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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I think you may have missed something.. American muscle does offer 18x9 deep dish bullits, i have them
As I understand it, american muscle stopped offering the 18x9 deep dish wheels not to long ago. Its that or indeed I am missing something because I can't seem to find them on their site. Thanks guys for the advice! I think soon here I am gonna pull the trigger on the staggered setup.

Edit: They do indeed offer deep dish 18x9.... Guess reading the wheel description a little closer helps...

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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:07 AM
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Just run 18x9 all around and run a 1" spacer in the rear. You'll get close to the look you want but you'll still be able to rotate. Get 275/40/18s and you'll have a nice beefy look front and back.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
Just run 18x9 all around and run a 1" spacer in the rear. You'll get close to the look you want but you'll still be able to rotate. Get 275/40/18s and you'll have a nice beefy look front and back.
Now that I actually see the deep dish 18x9's I'm gonna go with 18x9's all around. AM recommends a 255 tire so a 275 would fit as well? (Again I'm a complete newbie on tire sizes)
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by zackmd1
Now that I actually see the deep dish 18x9's I'm gonna go with 18x9's all around. AM recommends a 255 tire so a 275 would fit as well? (Again I'm a complete newbie on tire sizes)
You can do 255/45s or 275/40s. I run OEM 10th Anniversary Cobra wheels on my GT, which came stock with 275/40/17s from Ford. 275s are just fine on 9" wide wheels. 255s will give you maybe 1mpg better, 275s will give you a beefier look. Also, turn in will be a little crisper with the 255s, but the 275s will give you overall better grip (this is all dependent on which tires you choose though). Just something to think about. I also run a 1" spacer on the rear and have done so for 6 years now, no issues. Just make sure you get hub centric spacers and you'll be fine.

I'd personally go 275s because with the spacer in the rear, the 255s look too skinny to me.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zackmd1
As I understand it, american muscle stopped offering the 18x9 deep dish wheels not to long ago. Its that or indeed I am missing something because I can't seem to find them on their site. Thanks guys for the advice! I think soon here I am gonna pull the trigger on the staggered setup.

Edit: They do indeed offer deep dish 18x9.... Guess reading the wheel description a little closer helps...
These are the one i got:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/matteb...tomo-stan.html

I suck at taking pics, it looks much better in person, but heres an idea:

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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by roadrunner
These are the one i got: http://www.americanmuscle.com/matteb...tomo-stan.html I suck at taking pics, it looks much better in person, but heres an idea:
I forget that the S197 has a wider rear track than the SN95s. I would maybe not even run a rear spacer with those!
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I forget that the S197 has a wider rear track than the SN95s. I would maybe not even run a rear spacer with those!
Idk how OP feels about the wheels sticking out, but mine already stick out a tiny bit. I imagine if he got spacers along with the massive tire, it would stick out way to much.

Heres a pic of the rear:


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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by roadrunner
Idk how OP feels about the wheels sticking out, but mine already stick out a tiny bit. I imagine if he got spacers along with the massive tire, it would stick out way to much.

Heres a pic of the rear:

In my eyes that looks perfect! I do prefer the silver over black but as far as how the design looks! My opinion is that the wheels should be flush to just a tiny bit beyond the fender flare. Thanks for the picture!!
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zackmd1
In my eyes that looks perfect! I do prefer the silver over black but as far as how the design looks! My opinion is that the wheels should be flush to just a tiny bit beyond the fender flare. Thanks for the picture!!
Agreed. I didn't realize the offset was so low on those. That looks perfect to me too!

What size tires are you running?
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by zackmd1
In my eyes that looks perfect! I do prefer the silver over black but as far as how the design looks! My opinion is that the wheels should be flush to just a tiny bit beyond the fender flare. Thanks for the picture!!
Your welcome! I love it. It was unexpected though lol. You will very likely have to get an adjustable panhard bar.. Cause i think the axle comes a little off from the factory, but its no noticeable because of the skinny wheels. So when you switch to thicker ones, it becomes very obvious. I replaced a lot of my suspension so i got the phb, and it allowed me to center the axle perfectly.

Originally Posted by laserred38
Agreed. I didn't realize the offset was so low on those. That looks perfect to me too!

What size tires are you running?
Thanks guys!! My tires are 255/45-18
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