This says a lot:

 

pretty soon they might offer a system like the BMW M5 and M6 a lower power mode to maximize fuel economy (for CAFE) and a "power" button to switch to the full power tune. think about a 5.0 making 300hp and 30 mpg then a push of a button to 440 hp and race tune

 

I can see it now... the "GREEN KEY"...

 

Its not a bad idea. On the fly, warranty protected performance tunes.

 

Awesome. I would LOVE to think that we actually have a real race tune installed on here. They probably detuned it, but thinking that the engine itself is already detuned, maybe, just maybe, they didn't have to change the tune since the engine was already weaker.

But here's hoping!

 

I like the idea but I wondered why make it a key? The Corvette has a mode button which allows one to step through 4 setups on the fly. You can drive around in competitive mode then hit the button and the exhaust gets quite and the suspension mellows out. Very cool.

 

I think that already is the normal key on these cars. Which is why the custome tuners are able to extract so much more out of them.

 

I think the key is a great idea because I will be the only one who can put the car into track mode. Can the Corvette-style push-button mode changers be disabled? I'm thinking ahead 16 years when my infant son will want to borrow the car....

 

I was thinking the same thing, why don't they just have a button? but you have a very good point.. I would only give my wife the regular key!

Bingo.. you hit the nail on the head.

 

I like the key because it is plain way cooler than "sport mode" button like every car has (it does way more than a typical sport mode and Ford needs to showcase this).

I also think it likely that the feature is a part of the overall strategy to keep the entry cost low while giving enthusiasts exactly what they want.

If I was in charge of the program and wanted to get the 302R tuning into the program but knew management would never go for it....how about an add on that would sell like crazy, give my customers exactly what they want and underpin the business case for the vehicle. Seems like a huge win.

The Boss is shaping up to be a very strange car. I don't think Ford has realized that they will be selling them for way less than they could. There are very few times when the most desirable model doesn't cost the most. If Ford priced the Boss the same as the GT500 they would still sell every one of them. The Boss is an enthusiasts wet dream (at least for those that like tracks with turns).

 

Well since you have to BUY the red key separately, as it's not included with the car, it would seem Ford is able to squeeze a little bit more money from everyone. We need to start a poll on how much the red key is going to cost?

 

Hmmm, that's just your personal opinion. For many folks it's not the most desirable model. For me it's not but I'm happy for everyone who's going to get one and I'm sure they will love it!

 

I'm interested to see the implementation of the dual-path PCM after the Boss is produced. I don't think it's justifiable to produce that component for a limited piece, then put it aside not to be used again. I could (just a hunch) see this coming as std. equip in '12 or '13, then FRPP coming out with their TracKey (with the FRPP logo on it) and the same thing.

Now, this may not come into play until '15 or later, but I really don't think that it's going anywhere.

 

There really is probably nothing stopping them from doing it for any of the new mustangs. I'm sure the PCM hasn't changed. So all they need to do is offer a program that your Ford dealer downloads onto your PCM and then they sell you a Red Key that unlocks the tune.

 

I don't think he is saying that this particular car is the most desirable, but in the case that any car which happens to be the most desirable, may in fact, not be the most expensive.

 

I'm waiting for official word if the PCM is the same. If so, you're absolutely right. Just depends on whether or not they'll tap that option as an accessory.

I think if I had to put a cost on it, it'd be around $495. Only bad thing is you'll have to go to the dealer to get it installed (or an FRPP-qualified vendor/shop).

 

nope, Boss>GT500 and it's not close.

 

I wonder if the LS will come with a black key or maybe just come with the red? It it emissions legal after all.

 

Ha ha, ONLY in your opinion. I could easily get a Boss but I don't want one and opted to have my GT500 turned into a Super Snake. For ME that is the most desirable mustang.

 

Well if the PCM is different then there is no reason that you couldn't have the new PCM with dual programs installed into your car. While it might be a bit pricey that's doesn't negate it being possible.

Ford could actually have quite a good little aftermarket from this type of thing. Lot's of owners would opt for this type of "tuning" that still gave them full warranty protection and a Red Key to show to all of their buddies.