2012-2013 BOSS 302

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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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I recently got mine and installed it, I would suggest it to anyone even if your just daily driving the car.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Just installed the lower grill - perfect fit - great job Mike & thanks for offering this to Boss addicts! Looks great with the addition of the 302S grill.

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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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i sent you a pm i want one bad i am in va beach thanks
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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love the idea looks great!
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Just curious, is this a cosmetic thing or does it serve a purpose?
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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It protects the radiator down low. It's wide open at the bottom.
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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The mesh is the same mesh that is in the foglight openings in the 302S grille. The opening is about .4 inches. Most flying objects will hit some part of the mesh and either deflect, slow down or be stopped all together. I would think that a few objects could get by and hit the condensor though. I did not want to go to small with the mesh as I did not want to contribute to the overheating issue seen by some guys. So yes, I believe it serves a purpose.
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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006mach1
The mesh is the same mesh that is in the foglight openings in the 302S grille. The opening is about .4 inches. Most flying objects will hit some part of the mesh and either deflect, slow down or be stopped all together. I would think that a few objects could get by and hit the condensor though. I did not want to go to small with the mesh as I did not want to contribute to the overheating issue seen by some guys. So yes, I believe it serves a purpose.
That's why I bought it and can't wait to test it at Road America in a couple weeks. As 2006mach1 indicates, it protects the condenser, not the radiator. My condenser was completely hailed from catching M3s with sticky tires and getting showered with gravel before I could get by

Here are some pics of my condenser before the grille and you can see it's at least 80% blocked which dramatically impeded airflow to the radiator on track. Note how "clean" the condenser looks directly behind the vertical plastic support:


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I installed a new condenser and the lower grille. Install was a snap and the fit and finish is factory quality.


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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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I heard this trick yesterday (I think it work on rads too)
to spray some PAM on the grille then bugs fall off much easier at cleaning time...
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Old Jun 24, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JPC
I heard this trick yesterday (I think it work on rads too)
to spray some PAM on the grille then bugs fall off much easier at cleaning time...
I wish my issue was just cleaning out bugs. Unfortunately the fins on our condensers are EXTREMELY soft and just get smashed by small pebbles and tire turds.

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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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I saw this grill in person on Mike's car the other day, it's a top quality piece that looks factory! I would highly recommend it
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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I wish my issue was just cleaning out bugs. Unfortunately the fins on our condensers are EXTREMELY soft and just get smashed by small pebbles and tire turds.
Hey Gary. Nicole here in Nor Cal has a 2012 LS and she has removed the condenser all together. Says cooling is no longer a problem for her. I think the reason you didn't notice your winter cooling mods was the bent fins. With your new condenser you should realize your cooling gains.

PS- When are you taking a trip west for some of our mild summer track events and cruises? Rick and I are joining about 40 Shelby's and Bosses for a trip to Lake Tahoe on Sat. Temp should be a brutal 75* lakeside!
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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Hey Gary. Nicole here in Nor Cal has a 2012 LS and she has removed the condenser all together. Says cooling is no longer a problem for her. I think the reason you didn't notice your winter cooling mods was the bent fins. With your new condenser you should realize your cooling gains.

PS- When are you taking a trip west for some of our mild summer track events and cruises? Rick and I are joining about 40 Shelby's and Bosses for a trip to Lake Tahoe on Sat. Temp should be a brutal 75* lakeside!
I'm now looking at the Nov 3 & 4 dates for LS. I need more of that drug. Gary can you say road trip?

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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I think I'll stick with the Shelby Club on Nov 23, the day after Thanksgiving.

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
Hey Gary. Nicole here in Nor Cal has a 2012 LS and she has removed the condenser all together. Says cooling is no longer a problem for her. I think the reason you didn't notice your winter cooling mods was the bent fins. With your new condenser you should realize your cooling gains.

PS- When are you taking a trip west for some of our mild summer track events and cruises? Rick and I are joining about 40 Shelby's and Bosses for a trip to Lake Tahoe on Sat. Temp should be a brutal 75* lakeside!
We'll find out in 10 days! Glad I skipped this weekend at MAM.......will be near 100 and 62% humidity.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:07 PM
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removed the condenser? is she a weight weenie? if so, I like that.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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removed the condenser? is she a weight weenie? if so, I like that.
Nope. Just to cool the radiator better.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
Nope. Just to cool the radiator better.
Did it significantly lower coolant temps?
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
Did it significantly lower coolant temps?
She said it did, but didn't have any #'s. She open tracks quite a bit apparently. I think she said she was going 4 straight weekends. She does it right. She has Borelli Motorsports trailer her car to the track and she drives up in her new Shelby convertible.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
She said it did, but didn't have any #'s. She open tracks quite a bit apparently. I think she said she was going 4 straight weekends. She does it right. She has Borelli Motorsports trailer her car to the track and she drives up in her new Shelby convertible.
See if you can find out how they capped the lines. I'm wondering if they took out the compressor too or just the condenser. It's on its own belt, so if you delete the compressor, you don't need an idler pulley. I'm just not sure about the best way to cap/seal it off so you don't contaminate the lines or compressor.
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